FDX727pilot said he recently had a crew delay. See original post. He did not call me a moron, he called rolling thunder a moron. Again see original post. My point was rolling thunder has not caused a self-induced crew delay because he has not screwed up, how can fdx727pilot ,who just had a crew delay call rolling thunder a moron. Is that not clear? If its not maybe I should apply for a flt. mang. job or run for alpa office.

I agree lets at least give us something to compare. How does MX stack up? If the push gets delayed for a crew rest reason is that crew related?

But please don't make me read one of those AOD newsletters.

Man, I hope he has thick skin. Some of this stuff is grtting fairly personal.

You're right. Sorry, my mistake.

I believe we're talking about crew delays that cause service failures, with a service failure being defined as, for example, an overnight letter that gets to the customer after it's guaranteed delivery time (usually 10:30 A.M.)

Just because you're pushing back 45 minutes late out of Memphis at 0330L, doesn't mean that you've incurred either a crew delay or service failure, unless they have not included that "slop" time into their calculations, and you arrive at your destination, at a time that won't allow the freight to be unloaded and eventually delivered to the customer within the guaranteed delivery time. That is a service failure. Whether it's a crew delay or just a service failure, depends on the reason for the delay. In some markets, it's critical that the freight get there as near to schedule as possible, because the delivery times are very tight, as in NYC and LAX, and other big cities where there are many couriers and many miles to travel. Probably not the case in Sioux City, for example.

What goes around ... comes around?
 

We will go on with or without you ... FWS

Flying airplanes doesn't require special skills ... JL

English is my second language so ... (which translates to I'll issue at least 2 emails to clarify what it is I think I meant to say) ... "O"R

The infamous scheduling "optimizer" and it's affect on fatigue, city purity and deadheads ... FDX management

And now ... "Service Failures" with no explanation so that we don't call out the offending personnel?

What surprises me is the extraordinary effort the crew force gives night-in and night-out despite the fact that FDX management either doesn't understand what we do on a routine basis or just doesn't appreciate it (I'm talking "With or without you" here).

Maybe all of management has a language problem and this is all just their way of saying, "Thanks for doing a really great job guys!"

Hell, I say let's take O's latest rant a step further. Let's publish a list of ALL CAPT'S ON-TIME DEPARTURE and ON-TIME ARRIVAL stats and lets give a bonus (sort of like an MBO bonus) based on those stats. Be sure to include the time the haz paperwork was delivered and the time you called ramp tower ready to push. Is there anybody that thinks mgt doesn't already have these numbers? Maybe then, when your ACP is counseling you about some very minor paperwork issue you could point out that you have an above average on time record and can we please change the subject to something more important?


Mark

They were probably flying at .76M

MM,

You know as well as anyone that 100 atta-boys doesn't erase even 1 ah-sh!t, but the reverse is true, 1 ah-sh!t does in fact erase 100 atta-boys.

Actually, I was replying to this particular sentence: "In my ten years at FedEx I have never seen a delay of any kind that was the crews fault."

There is no mention of causing service failure. If you believe that sentence is true, you are saying a pilot can go through a ten year stretch at FDX and never once see a pilot cause a delay, as in late block out, taxi over the scheduled times, or even flight time over schedule. It doesn't even address whether the delay is justified, as in "Captain's precautionary," but simply attributable to the crew. If you truly believe that, you are, to repeat myself, either totally oblivious or a moron.

BTW - Taxi out delay due to stopping on the ramp and waiting for ramper to come to jet, so we could drop required paperwork that was not given to ramp agent prior to blockout. Can't see any option other than crew delay on that. No service failure, but definitely a crew delay.

Agreed.

Crew delays, while not good, are at least acceptable, because stuff happens. Service failures are always bad. Unlike the passenger carrying guys, who can get there 5 hours late, with no repercussions, when we have a service failure, we've carried that package for FREE. Not a good thing!

I was in Osaka once, the junior guy in a 4-man crew for KIX-MEM.

Did the walkaround and found a pretty big oil leak on #3 (new engine). A little research showed the thing had burned 3 quarts from SIN to KIX.

Long story short, took them 5 hours to find the leak - they had to run it at takeoff power out on the runway. Lord knows what that cost the company - we missed the sort in MEM.....