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FDX aviator 10-17-2007 04:20 PM

Brown flight profile
 
I have a question for UPS pilots;
Do you have a company wide 'standard' climb and descent profile to either minimize fuel comsumption or optimize traffic? Or do you fly the specific airplane's CFM flight profile?
We were discussing this last night on a flight; We have a standard descent profile (for fuel savings) and it seems that ATC makes everyone else conform to it at our hubs, but at outstations, they usually ask us to conform to whatever other traffic is doing...
Purple pilot

FlyByCable 10-17-2007 04:29 PM

General rule of thumb is for non time critical flights, 300/.80. For time critical flights, 340/.84.

SC-7 10-17-2007 04:50 PM

I was wondering the same thing a while back, since we (FDX) usually seem to pass you guys (UPS) on the leg back from PVG.

I think the OP meant more along the lines of a descent policy airspeed. Ours is 290 (above 10K), and is supposedly designed to keep from overrunning the escargot during Memphis recoveries.

FlyByCable 10-18-2007 02:59 AM

[quote=SC-7;248892]I was wondering the same thing a while back, since we (FDX) usually seem to pass you guys (UPS) on the leg back from PVG.

I think the OP meant more along the lines of a descent policy airspeed. Ours is 290 (above 10K), and is supposedly designed to keep from overrunning the escargot during Memphis recoveries.[/quote


The 300/.80 or 340/.84 was for domestic flights. When I was on the whale years ago, we used to go everywhere at .86. Going into SDF, often you will get slowed and/or vectored to follow the Airbus.

CactusCrew 10-18-2007 04:27 AM

I don't have one in front of me ... but I think the flight plans on the B757/767 are usually 290/.78 in the climb and decent profiles on the release.

But I haven't seen one in awhile either ... someone help me out ...

Later, CC

Roberto 10-18-2007 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by CactusCrew (Post 249028)
I don't have one in front of me ... but I think the flight plans on the B757/767 are usually 290/.78 in the climb and decent profiles on the release.

That's what it has been on the 75/76 for years, even when plan is for .84 cruise. When planned for .84 cruise, most speed up the climb and descent when they can.

v2plus25 10-18-2007 07:09 AM

Heehee, the bus! Holdin' folks up everywhere we go.

CactusCrew 10-18-2007 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Roberto (Post 249053)
That's what it has been on the 75/76 for years, even when plan is for .84 cruise. When planned for .84 cruise, most speed up the climb and descent when they can.


Of course we do, most fly what they want or simply stay with the econ numbers, if they are fast enough ...

Those CI40 ECON descent speeds get as slow as 265-275 ... in very few cases have folks gone that slow. But a few have ... :eek:

But what do I know, I'm new here, and still wear my hat ... :D

Later, CC

BrownClown 10-18-2007 08:05 AM

But what do I know, I'm new here, and still wear my hat ... :D

Later, CC[/QUOTE]


HATS!!!! WE HAVE HATS?????!!!!!!!;)

BoynamedSue 10-18-2007 01:55 PM

aren't they white and say TEAM IPA?


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