Brown flight profile
10-17-2007, 04:20 PM
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Brown flight profile
I have a question for UPS pilots;
Do you have a company wide 'standard' climb and descent profile to either minimize fuel comsumption or optimize traffic? Or do you fly the specific airplane's CFM flight profile?
We were discussing this last night on a flight; We have a standard descent profile (for fuel savings) and it seems that ATC makes everyone else conform to it at our hubs, but at outstations, they usually ask us to conform to whatever other traffic is doing...
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Do you have a company wide 'standard' climb and descent profile to either minimize fuel comsumption or optimize traffic? Or do you fly the specific airplane's CFM flight profile?
We were discussing this last night on a flight; We have a standard descent profile (for fuel savings) and it seems that ATC makes everyone else conform to it at our hubs, but at outstations, they usually ask us to conform to whatever other traffic is doing...
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10-17-2007, 04:50 PM
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I was wondering the same thing a while back, since we (FDX) usually seem to pass you guys (UPS) on the leg back from PVG.
I think the OP meant more along the lines of a descent policy airspeed. Ours is 290 (above 10K), and is supposedly designed to keep from overrunning the escargot during Memphis recoveries.
I think the OP meant more along the lines of a descent policy airspeed. Ours is 290 (above 10K), and is supposedly designed to keep from overrunning the escargot during Memphis recoveries.
10-18-2007, 02:59 AM
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[quote=SC-7;248892]I was wondering the same thing a while back, since we (FDX) usually seem to pass you guys (UPS) on the leg back from PVG.
I think the OP meant more along the lines of a descent policy airspeed. Ours is 290 (above 10K), and is supposedly designed to keep from overrunning the escargot during Memphis recoveries.[/quote
The 300/.80 or 340/.84 was for domestic flights. When I was on the whale years ago, we used to go everywhere at .86. Going into SDF, often you will get slowed and/or vectored to follow the Airbus.
I think the OP meant more along the lines of a descent policy airspeed. Ours is 290 (above 10K), and is supposedly designed to keep from overrunning the escargot during Memphis recoveries.[/quote
The 300/.80 or 340/.84 was for domestic flights. When I was on the whale years ago, we used to go everywhere at .86. Going into SDF, often you will get slowed and/or vectored to follow the Airbus.
10-18-2007, 04:27 AM
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I don't have one in front of me ... but I think the flight plans on the B757/767 are usually 290/.78 in the climb and decent profiles on the release.
But I haven't seen one in awhile either ... someone help me out ...
Later, CC
But I haven't seen one in awhile either ... someone help me out ...
Later, CC
10-18-2007, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
I don't have one in front of me ... but I think the flight plans on the B757/767 are usually 290/.78 in the climb and decent profiles on the release.
10-18-2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Roberto
That's what it has been on the 75/76 for years, even when plan is for .84 cruise. When planned for .84 cruise, most speed up the climb and descent when they can.
Of course we do, most fly what they want or simply stay with the econ numbers, if they are fast enough ...
Those CI40 ECON descent speeds get as slow as 265-275 ... in very few cases have folks gone that slow. But a few have ...
But what do I know, I'm new here, and still wear my hat ...
Later, CC
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