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Old 11-25-2007, 04:44 PM
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Slaveship,

Parking jets? Hadn't heard that one yet...do tell.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:56 PM
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Whale,
There is a little info going around amongst the people already going over. PM me and I'll be happy to share what I have so far.

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

If I may make an observation, without "opening a can of worms", is there another source of "information" on the FDA's that us poolies do not have access to?

Does the FDX ALPA website contain detailed information such as local living conditions, housing and other important information so that a "normal" human being can make a "sound" decision for himself/herself on going to the FDA?

From my observation, there isn't any information except what is posted here to make such a "sound" decision. My extensive time in China, particularly Zhuhai and the Guangdong Provence allows me to make the decision for HKG soundly. Hong Kong itself isn't even an option with regards to the housing costs. But what if I was to only be offered CDG? I know nothing of the area and don't have any information here to make a "sound" decision.

Wouldn't it be prudent for FDX ALPA to send out an informational packet to poolies in the event they need to make a decision about the FDA? It would seem that since we are the "future" of FDX ALPA then this would be much better served than the "standard" Welcome aboard Packet that you get when you are hired at an ALPA carrier. If a packet couldn't be sent due to cost constraints, perhaps a page on the website for us to become "educated" on the FDA. Knowledge is power and for anyone not to have this knowledge prior to making a decision is crazy. Basing on what information I have on the FDA I can only choose HKG.

I understand that my information would be limited as I am not yet an employee but the "potential" for being called exists thus this information should be considered if it even exists. If not, and the rank and file don't have the information either, then how in the world did the FDA pass without such information?

I hope I don't make anyone upset but I thought this would be a proper dialogue considering the possibility of the purple olympic swim team being retired.

Thanks......

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Old 11-25-2007, 05:46 PM
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Slaveship,

Parking jets? Hadn't heard that one yet...do tell.
Well, we did retire 3 727-200s this fall, with 1 more due to go after peak.
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Old 11-25-2007, 06:39 PM
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'Tis sad but true...we are losing some -200s.

Rumors only, but some folks claim we lose the Valsans this spring. If so, I'll miss them...a pleasure to fly and they seemed to always go places I like (RNO, BOI, GEG, OAK, COS, etc etc).

Seems like we got a few folks here more fleet savvy than me...any additional SA on the 727 plans? I know the fleet plan indicated about 20 gone in the next 24 months. Is that still on track?
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:01 PM
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'Tis sad but true...we are losing some -200s.

Rumors only, but some folks claim we lose the Valsans this spring. If so, I'll miss them...a pleasure to fly and they seemed to always go places I like (RNO, BOI, GEG, OAK, COS, etc etc).

Seems like we got a few folks here more fleet savvy than me...any additional SA on the 727 plans? I know the fleet plan indicated about 20 gone in the next 24 months. Is that still on track?
I heard the same Valsan rumor...cracks or something fun like that.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:05 PM
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Being returned to leasors is the version I heard.
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:05 PM
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To get back on point for Whale and the other poolies, he asked, "Wouldn't it be prudent for FDX ALPA to send out an informational packet to poolies in the event they need to make a decision about the FDA? It would seem that since we are the "future" of FDX ALPA then this would be much better served than the "standard" Welcome aboard Packet that you get when you are hired at an ALPA carrier. If a packet couldn't be sent due to cost constraints, perhaps a page on the website for us to become "educated" on the FDA. Knowledge is power and for anyone not to have this knowledge prior to making a decision is crazy. Basing on what information I have on the FDA I can only choose HKG."

When the two MEC reps were asked this at the meeting in Subic last week, their response (paraphrased) was that they thought there was enough information already out there, and no, they weren't planning on giving any potential new hires any extra info. In other words, all of you potential new hires are on your own to find enough information to make one of the biggest decisions of your life.
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
'Tis sad but true...we are losing some -200s.

Rumors only, but some folks claim we lose the Valsans this spring. If so, I'll miss them...a pleasure to fly and they seemed to always go places I like (RNO, BOI, GEG, OAK, COS, etc etc).

Seems like we got a few folks here more fleet savvy than me...any additional SA on the 727 plans? I know the fleet plan indicated about 20 gone in the next 24 months. Is that still on track?
I'm sure they are a pleasure to fly, but I sure wished you guys would just match Fuel Flows in cruise!

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Old 11-25-2007, 11:06 PM
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I heard the same rumor about some of the Valsans being returned to the leasors.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperone View Post
To get back on point for Whale and the other poolies, he asked, "Wouldn't it be prudent for FDX ALPA to send out an informational packet to poolies in the event they need to make a decision about the FDA? It would seem that since we are the "future" of FDX ALPA then this would be much better served than the "standard" Welcome aboard Packet that you get when you are hired at an ALPA carrier. If a packet couldn't be sent due to cost constraints, perhaps a page on the website for us to become "educated" on the FDA. Knowledge is power and for anyone not to have this knowledge prior to making a decision is crazy. Basing on what information I have on the FDA I can only choose HKG."

When the two MEC reps were asked this at the meeting in Subic last week, their response (paraphrased) was that they thought there was enough information already out there, and no, they weren't planning on giving any potential new hires any extra info. In other words, all of you potential new hires are on your own to find enough information to make one of the biggest decisions of your life.
Yikes.....

Thanks very much.

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