Indy De-ice Follies
12-05-2007, 11:41 AM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: MD10 FO
Posts: 307
A complete disaster last night, and the conditions weren't that bad. Extremely poor coordination by ramp tower. Their inability to coordinate with ground control (which by the way, I thought did a good job considering the circumstances) and lack of flexibility was ridiculous.
Poor execution by the deicing teams, constantly running out of fluid.
Car wash program will not work with only 1 or 2 trucks at a time.
When we pushed for point 2, we had no one in front of us. It took 49 minutes to deice. It took 30 minutes for the final application
If we had not been 10k light on freight, we too would have to return for gas.
If we did our jobs this way, we would get fired.
Poor execution by the deicing teams, constantly running out of fluid.
Car wash program will not work with only 1 or 2 trucks at a time.
When we pushed for point 2, we had no one in front of us. It took 49 minutes to deice. It took 30 minutes for the final application
If we had not been 10k light on freight, we too would have to return for gas.
If we did our jobs this way, we would get fired.
12-05-2007, 11:44 AM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: MD-11 Capt
Posts: 330
Originally Posted by md11retiree
You should send a copy of this to FWS and cc 'O'. Guarantee you will get a response. FS hates system failures for unexcuseable reasons. Somebody will be on the 'carpet' very soon and maybe out the door.
12-05-2007, 12:10 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: A300 Captain
Posts: 257
Originally Posted by FDXer
If it's on HERE, he will read it. 
Anybody else have a problem with us airing our dirty laundry like this????
Anybody else have a problem with us airing our dirty laundry like this????
12-05-2007, 12:28 PM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Retired
Posts: 151
If I remember correctly, don't they send the IND de-ice crews (and everyone else for that matter) to MEM to learn de-icing procedures? They should have been sending everyone to IND to learn. IND used to be outstanding.
12-05-2007, 12:29 PM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: FedEx Capt
Posts: 292
Originally Posted by FDXer
If it's on HERE, he will read it. Anybody else have a problem with us airing our dirty laundry like this????
Anybody else have a problem with us airing our dirty laundry like this????If the company continues to lose sight of that just to shave nickels and dimes off the bottom line at the expense of our product we will all lose!
Better to air it out and have some clean clothes before it's too late.
12-05-2007, 02:53 PM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 122
Fix it
I did send this letter to O. He replied with a "I'll forward this on", and it went UP the chain. That's good.
Hopefully someone from IND ops will read this and fix things before the big machine catches up.
Hopefully someone from IND ops will read this and fix things before the big machine catches up.
12-05-2007, 06:16 PM
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Row well and live...
Posts: 494
Yeah, it was a fiasco. IND ops evidently didn't take a look at the Weather Channel, because they seemed taken by surprise when the snow started falling.
Things got better once we got off the ramp; the airport itself and the other carriers seemed to deal with it OK (it was daylight and the pass carriers were launching by then.) Not our finest moment. Good news was we picked up an extra 2 hrs on that hard time trip.
Things got better once we got off the ramp; the airport itself and the other carriers seemed to deal with it OK (it was daylight and the pass carriers were launching by then.) Not our finest moment. Good news was we picked up an extra 2 hrs on that hard time trip.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
