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vschip 12-19-2007 12:29 PM

FDX-intl deviation questions
 
This is to all out there that are smarter than me(large group, I know). Here's what section 8.C.4.d says:

Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.

My 2 questions, is it just 3 calender days, or is it 72 hours? My scheduled dh leaves at 3 in the afternoon on a Monday, but the deviation flight I'm looking at leaves around 8am on the preceding Friday, within 3 calender days, but not 72 hours. Second question, the 48 hour delay internationally, I'm basically headed to AMS to hang with the wife for a weekend while she's at some conference, planning to get there on Sat morning, my FDX revenue flight doesn't leave CDG until early Thurs morning. Can I stay in AMS until Tuesday(more than 48 hours), and pay my own way to CDG, or do I need to travel to CDG within 48 hours of my arriving in AMS? I've put a call in to contract admin this morning, and am still waiting for a callback.
Thanks,
Chip

FlybyKnite 12-19-2007 12:44 PM

You might want to email your crew travel audit (expense reports) representative with your questions. After all, they are the ones who administer the rules for the company; and then compare notes with contract admin afterwards. I had the same 3day/72hour question and mine said 'I just count 3days on a calendar'. Your personal results may vary by personnel :).

Jetjok 12-19-2007 12:59 PM

I agree with FlybyKnite in that it's usually up to your auditor to interpret the rules, and as long as you get the answer that you want from them, I'd leave it at that. As well, if you want to pay your own way from AMS to CDG, I can't imagine anyone having heartache about that, irregardless of the "48 hours", because that is indeed applicable when the company is paying your travel expense. Contract Administration can probably tell you the correct answer, but since they don't reconcile your travel expense report, I'd rely on your auditor.

vschip 12-19-2007 01:09 PM

Fly and Jet,
Didn't even think of the auditor, thanks...but with the fox system, do we still have auditors? I know who my old one was, but I thought the whole reason for the fox system was to get rid of the auditors? Its not til the end of Jan, so I've still got some time to figure it out...

hyperone 12-19-2007 01:59 PM

vschip, I asked this very question of the senior crew travel auditor, Brenda M. a while back, and the response was 3 calendar days.

FlybyKnite 12-19-2007 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by vschip (Post 283225)
Fly and Jet,
Didn't even think of the auditor, thanks...but with the fox system, do we still have auditors? I know who my old one was, but I thought the whole reason for the fox system was to get rid of the auditors? Its not til the end of Jan, so I've still got some time to figure it out...

Odds are it's the same person. Best way to determine which auditor is yours-- don't submit something (report, receipt, etc) on-time. They will email you very quickly ;).

fdxbusdriver 12-19-2007 04:13 PM

It's always been 3 calendar days every time I've done it but maybe that's just my auditor being nice...

FDXLAG 12-19-2007 04:33 PM

So is it three calendar days starting at central time 0130?

hyperone 12-19-2007 05:31 PM

The way Brenda explained it to me was that I could travel on Thursday for a trip that starts on Sunday, at the beginning of a trip, or travel on Sunday for a trip that finishes on Thursday. And she said these were calendar days. Again, if you're worried about it, call the audit folks, ask to talk to a supervisor, and confirm the above.

Whale Pilot 12-19-2007 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 283430)
So is it three calendar days starting at central time 0130?

Do you guys always use Memphis time or Zulu date?

Whale

MaydayMark 12-20-2007 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by FlybyKnite (Post 283208)
You might want to email your crew travel audit (expense reports) representative with your questions. After all, they are the ones who administer the rules for the company; and then compare notes with contract admin afterwards. I had the same 3day/72hour question and mine said 'I just count 3days on a calendar'. Your personal results may vary by personnel :).


If you email your auditor and get the email response you want, you are golden. Trust me, they're not going to put themselves on report by letting you take your expense report to your ACP after it's been denied (assuming you have a reply in writing).


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