This is to all out there that are smarter than me(large group, I know). Here's what section 8.C.4.d says:

Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.

My 2 questions, is it just 3 calender days, or is it 72 hours? My scheduled dh leaves at 3 in the afternoon on a Monday, but the deviation flight I'm looking at leaves around 8am on the preceding Friday, within 3 calender days, but not 72 hours. Second question, the 48 hour delay internationally, I'm basically headed to AMS to hang with the wife for a weekend while she's at some conference, planning to get there on Sat morning, my FDX revenue flight doesn't leave CDG until early Thurs morning. Can I stay in AMS until Tuesday(more than 48 hours), and pay my own way to CDG, or do I need to travel to CDG within 48 hours of my arriving in AMS? I've put a call in to contract admin this morning, and am still waiting for a callback.
Thanks,
Chip

 

You might want to email your crew travel audit (expense reports) representative with your questions. After all, they are the ones who administer the rules for the company; and then compare notes with contract admin afterwards. I had the same 3day/72hour question and mine said 'I just count 3days on a calendar'. Your personal results may vary by personnel .

 

I agree with FlybyKnite in that it's usually up to your auditor to interpret the rules, and as long as you get the answer that you want from them, I'd leave it at that. As well, if you want to pay your own way from AMS to CDG, I can't imagine anyone having heartache about that, irregardless of the "48 hours", because that is indeed applicable when the company is paying your travel expense. Contract Administration can probably tell you the correct answer, but since they don't reconcile your travel expense report, I'd rely on your auditor.

 

Fly and Jet,
Didn't even think of the auditor, thanks...but with the fox system, do we still have auditors? I know who my old one was, but I thought the whole reason for the fox system was to get rid of the auditors? Its not til the end of Jan, so I've still got some time to figure it out...

 

vschip, I asked this very question of the senior crew travel auditor, Brenda M. a while back, and the response was 3 calendar days.

 

Odds are it's the same person. Best way to determine which auditor is yours-- don't submit something (report, receipt, etc) on-time. They will email you very quickly .

 

It's always been 3 calendar days every time I've done it but maybe that's just my auditor being nice...

 

So is it three calendar days starting at central time 0130?

 

The way Brenda explained it to me was that I could travel on Thursday for a trip that starts on Sunday, at the beginning of a trip, or travel on Sunday for a trip that finishes on Thursday. And she said these were calendar days. Again, if you're worried about it, call the audit folks, ask to talk to a supervisor, and confirm the above.

 

Do you guys always use Memphis time or Zulu date?

Whale