Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
(Post 292799)
if the over 60 f/o doesn,t like it, he could retire.:eek:
"Hey, stop complaining all the time....if you junior guys don't like the rules in this industry, you can always quit" ...of course, retirement is a much nicer option.;) |
Originally Posted by Albief15
(Post 293005)
What if the FO is senior to the captain? Could happen...
So...does seat or seniority take precedence? Interesting times... ...the seat |
The capt is awarded the line one day before the f/o, so he owns the line.
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
(Post 293044)
The capt is awarded the line one day before the f/o, so he owns the line.
fbh |
or now the negative two geezers list.....
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After all the wailing from everybody around here about seniority, it's interesting how no one really seems to care much on the seat v. seniority deal for trips and bidding.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
(Post 293127)
After all the wailing from everybody around here about seniority, it's interesting how no one really seems to care much on the seat v. seniority deal for trips and bidding.
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Originally Posted by subicpilot
(Post 293131)
Not sure what you mean here...there's not much to care about. Seat seniority is all that has ever existed as far as bidding is concerned, with the exception of the standing bid. We have senior people in all seats and aircraft right now. The over 60 stuff doesn't change anything.
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Of course, someone will ask --- What if the FO is senior to the Capt?
If flying from say Paris to Subic and in that situation, as Capt you simply look at the F/O and say " NOT FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS " .........:cool: |
Seniority, while being the cornerstone of this industry, is a little different here at FedEx. In most places, guys actually aspire to become captains. Here, we've lots of guys who, for whatever reason, aspire to gain seniority in whatever seat they happen to find themselves in, then stay there for protracted lengths of time. However, seniority within seat is only good for: standing bids; vacation bids; monthly bids; RCS/PC/PT dates and times; and last but not least (I think) upgrade or transition training dates. Once one shows for a flight or pairing, they then fall into the trap of "if you're a first officer, then you're subservient to your captain, while if you're a second officer, you're subservient to (first) your captain and (then) your first officer, when the captain is off the flight deck.
At some other airlines, once someone junior to you upgrades to a higher seat, you've got one year to accomplish an upgrade, or you're shown the door. In those systems, seniority across the spectrum of the crew force, is more in line with seniority across seats, whereas here, it's not. And before guys like P.cubed or FDD home in on, and get upset with my use of the word "subservient", the definition of that word, from the dictionary was "serving or acting in a subordinate capacity." It was not a slam or was not meant in a demeaning way. |
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