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Yet another questions for the FDX experts.

I was looking on the FedEx website and noticed that military pilots can add.2 hours for each sortie they have. I was quite elated b/c when I added up all my sorties as PIC b/c it gave me an extra 94 hours of PIC time. My question to you guys is...is that the way its intended to work. I was going to add that time to my online profile but I wanted to make sure I was doing it properly. (Dont want to appear to be dishonest with the flight time)

My 2nd question is how do they verify our PIC time. I have my Air Force printouts to verify my total time but the only thing I have for PIC are my own records. Do they just take my word for it?

Thanks

Your second question first: you will bring your AFORMS printouts with you to your interview and yes, the interviewers are very good at reading them. This is five-year old info but at my interview, they spent the first 15 minutes (about) pouring over my AFORMS printouts without saying a word. Then they handed them back and began their first question with "so in 5 minutes, tell us about yourself."

The taxi time question would be better addressed by a more recent new hire, but my opinion is to go ahead and add it to your on-line application if they mention you can. If they address it on the web site then they certainly expect to see a difference between your total time on your app and whatever source documents your bring to your interview.

You're correct, you can multiply your sortie count by 0.2 and add that to your total time. That's how it's intended to work to account for the different way civilian time is counted than military. As a caveat, on my official resume, I put an asterisk by time and annotated that I added 0.2 hrs per sortie. Look at it closely, because in some instances, like night time for example, you can also add the .2 per sortie if your entire sortie was at night. Same deal for O-1 or O-2 time, NVG time if you wore them the whole time, or IP time if you had an I code on the orders. In short, do what makes sense. If it passes your integrity test as an AF officer, then it will probably suffice for FDX. If in doubt, just annotate what you did. As for the PIC time, yes, they'll take your word. They know the AF does funny stuff with the A code and that MP/FP guys don't necessarily always carry the A code when they're flying. If you've got your records (I kept my own log) you can be accurate, and your signature on the logbook verifies it. Your AF records will also back you up. If you're using the AF flight records your options are to list all of your time since upgrading to MP as PIC time or I even heard one guy just wagged it and put 90% of his time as PIC. Any other ideas out there? Basically, if you've got your AF records, you'll be good to do.

The 0.2 addition to every sortie was meant to account for "block" time as opposed to "flight" time.

If I remember right, the military calculates their total times based only on take off (actual "wheels up" or power up) to landing (actual "touchdown" on the runway). "Flight" time.

On the other hand, civilian time is calculated from the time the tug pushes you back from the gate (or engine start in the gate) to the time you actually shut down the engines after your flight at the gate, or the reading from a Hobbs-type meter in smaller airplanes (engine on time). "Block-to-block" time. So civilian "block" time includes all taxi time.

So the 0.2 per sortie addition is to give the military guys an artificial taxi time to add to their "flight" time, to equal a civilian "block" time.

Hope this helps...and Good Luck!

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Your question was answered but I will throw in my 2 cents.
Defintely add a .2 for every "Military " sortie.
FedEx uses a point system for every block on the Application. Total flight time is one of them. If your extra 94 hours puts you over.........1500 (instead of 1406).........or over 2000 (istead of 1906).......or over 3000 (you get the idea) it adds to you overall point total.

Be able to explain how you did your conversion. Don't do what a old friend of mine did and just mutipy total flight time by .2 and add it to the total..................he got turned down in the interview for "NOT following directions" given on the application........................Same goes for PIC.

PIC means you "signed" for the Aircraft. It does not mean Pilot time actually at the controls..................Should be obvious but people still Screw this up.

Good luck

Thanks for the replies...that was a big help....

Since we're on the topic, I've got a burning question...

I had my commercial multi instrument ticket before I entered the Air Force. During AF pilot training, could that time be considered SIC or PIC jet after I was checked out to solo? While in pilot training (after we were solo checked), the students signed the jets out- unless I'm wrong...

I've done a metric sh!tload of research on this, but I've found nothing remotely close to answering this question.

Strange situation, I know, but thanks for any answers.


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Are you talking about counting the time in UPT as PIC? I'm not with any airline but I think you might be speeding on that one. I know FedEx clearly spells out that you have to be the Aircraft CC for record. I interpret for record to mean on the flt orders for that particular mission. ( I think other airlines may define it a little differently). Even though it sounds like you were a licenced pilot before UPT we still flew with IPs who were the actual aircraft commanders. However, if you find out somehow that i'm wrong please let me know so i can count my time too :-)

Just a couple of quick questions for the FEDEX experts:

It has come to my attention that FEDEX is interviewing and hiring furloughed legacy carrier pilots, LCC pilots, regional pilots and military pilots, but no legacy carrier pilots currently employed. Is this true? If that is the case, what in the world is the rational for that? Is the quota system at FEDEX such that it is set up to interview and hire so many pilots from each category, and subsequently are "getting" their fill from the furloughed legacy pilot ranks?

Any information on this subject would be greatly appreciated since I happen to be one of those legacy pilot's who is currently employed.

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If you signed for the T-37 or T-38 and were solo....................you were PIC.
I counted all my Solo Time in T-28's, T-2s and TA-4s while in Pilot training.
I was up frontin the interview (13 years ago) and got hired.