FDX - Reserve/Vacation Question
02-16-2008 | 05:00 AM
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FDX - Reserve/Vacation Question
Need a little help here -
I have 7 days of vacation in March (the last week of the bid month), and I was awarded a RA+ line that has zero days in the last week. Now, I plan to extend the vaca by 3 days, but I'm curious if there is any advantage to sliding it in order to knock out more RA+ days? If I do nothing but extend 3 days to the left and keep the buffer, I'll only knock out 3 RA+ days, but I could slide it to the left and knock out several more, so....
1. Is it a moot point? My understanding of the CBA is that if I knock out less than 10 R days, CRS will automatically remove extra R days to make the total 10?
2. Will my vaca bank be reduced by 10*4.6 CH regardless of how many R days are in direct conflict?
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I have 7 days of vacation in March (the last week of the bid month), and I was awarded a RA+ line that has zero days in the last week. Now, I plan to extend the vaca by 3 days, but I'm curious if there is any advantage to sliding it in order to knock out more RA+ days? If I do nothing but extend 3 days to the left and keep the buffer, I'll only knock out 3 RA+ days, but I could slide it to the left and knock out several more, so....
1. Is it a moot point? My understanding of the CBA is that if I knock out less than 10 R days, CRS will automatically remove extra R days to make the total 10?
2. Will my vaca bank be reduced by 10*4.6 CH regardless of how many R days are in direct conflict?
Thanks!
SM
02-16-2008 | 05:15 AM
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Need a little help here -
I have 7 days of vacation in March (the last week of the bid month), and I was awarded a RA+ line that has zero days in the last week. Now, I plan to extend the vaca by 3 days, but I'm curious if there is any advantage to sliding it in order to knock out more RA+ days? If I do nothing but extend 3 days to the left and keep the buffer, I'll only knock out 3 RA+ days, but I could slide it to the left and knock out several more, so....
1. Is it a moot point? My understanding of the CBA is that if I knock out less than 10 R days, CRS will automatically remove extra R days to make the total 10?
2. Will my vaca bank be reduced by 10*4.6 CH regardless of how many R days are in direct conflict?
Thanks!
SM
I have 7 days of vacation in March (the last week of the bid month), and I was awarded a RA+ line that has zero days in the last week. Now, I plan to extend the vaca by 3 days, but I'm curious if there is any advantage to sliding it in order to knock out more RA+ days? If I do nothing but extend 3 days to the left and keep the buffer, I'll only knock out 3 RA+ days, but I could slide it to the left and knock out several more, so....
1. Is it a moot point? My understanding of the CBA is that if I knock out less than 10 R days, CRS will automatically remove extra R days to make the total 10?
2. Will my vaca bank be reduced by 10*4.6 CH regardless of how many R days are in direct conflict?
Thanks!
SM
2 suggestions, just take out the CBA, section 7 and go line by line through the reserve line holder section. It really is pretty easy to understand, secondly the Bid Period Processing section in VIPS is also very easy to follow, start at the top of the page and click on every link to familiarize yourself with the options. Reserve vacation is a pretty good deal !
If you expand you will be charged R dys * r day value as you thought. Think of v days and any expansion days as R day replacements, buffer days are NOT. 10 V days with expansion will always remove 10 r days, leaving on the hook for 9 days in Mar, assuming you do not have min days, carryover or training to deal with.
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02-16-2008 | 06:14 AM
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Assuming you wanted vacation days at the end of the month, there is an advanatage to sliding it, since you will get a 48 hour buffer at the end of your scheduled vacation days (buffer's don't cross bid months).....so, assuming you have vacation from 31 Mar to 6 Apr....sliding it to the left and expanding it should wind up with 14 days blocked (should be viewable in the Bid period processing menu)....
Thus, CRS can't drop any R days 24 Mar-6 Apr in your reconstructed R day line. (10 R days and two 48 hour buffers).
The downside of having a vacation period at the end of the month is that you won't get any R day leveling until you get to the "Vacation" R day.
Thus, CRS can't drop any R days 24 Mar-6 Apr in your reconstructed R day line. (10 R days and two 48 hour buffers).
The downside of having a vacation period at the end of the month is that you won't get any R day leveling until you get to the "Vacation" R day.
02-16-2008 | 08:04 AM
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Assuming you wanted vacation days at the end of the month, there is an advanatage to sliding it, since you will get a 48 hour buffer at the end of your scheduled vacation days (buffer's don't cross bid months).....so, assuming you have vacation from 31 Mar to 6 Apr....sliding it to the left and expanding it should wind up with 14 days blocked (should be viewable in the Bid period processing menu)....
Thus, CRS can't drop any R days 24 Mar-6 Apr in your reconstructed R day line. (10 R days and two 48 hour buffers).
The downside of having a vacation period at the end of the month is that you won't get any R day leveling until you get to the "Vacation" R day.
Thus, CRS can't drop any R days 24 Mar-6 Apr in your reconstructed R day line. (10 R days and two 48 hour buffers).
The downside of having a vacation period at the end of the month is that you won't get any R day leveling until you get to the "Vacation" R day.
Thanks!
02-16-2008 | 10:35 AM
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Good point, thanks. So, it sounds like I should only slide to guarantee that I will have the days off I want (protected by V days and buffer). However, since I will only be in conflict with about 3 R days from the original line after I slide, CRS will still remove additional R days to make the total 10 R days removed (and leave me on the hook for 9)...right? Also, even though I only have a "real" conflict with 3 days, will my bank still be charged for 10 R days (7 days vaca + 3 days extension)??
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02-16-2008 | 04:28 PM
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As mentioned above, with a reserve line, you don't actually "conflict" anything. Futures takes the number of vacation days, either as awarded or as slid and extended per Section 7G. 3., adds the 48 hr buffer on each end, and that becomes your guaranteed time off. Then, they reconstruct your Reserve line, minus the number of vacation days. Since Mar is a 5 week month, you will do 19 days minus the number of vacation days (between 7 and 10) you end up taking. They will stick as closely to the original line as possible, and you have ability to put in preferences on how it is constructed. However, much like VTO lines, those are only preferences, and YMMV. The last time I did the Vacation/Reserve deal, they didn't honor any of my preferences.
02-17-2008 | 06:39 AM
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That's the whole point of extension with a reserve line. Otherwise, your bank would only get deducted 4:30 (more or less) for your original 7 vacation days, which is approx 31:30. Extension allows you to use the other 11:30 or so hours to get more days off. You can not use less than the number of vacation days times R-day value out of your vacation bank. Again, you are not conflicting with anything for bank usage with reserve. It only determines your guaranteed days off. Please go over Section 7.G.3., Vacation Bank Administration for Reserve lineholders. Other than the formula for Extension, it's fairly clear.
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