MD-11 vs Airbus
05-02-2008 | 09:51 PM
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It's always the first officers who pump up their chests and proudly proclaim "I always hand fly it to FL180", never fully understanding how much SA they loose by just automatically flying "light in the star." Captains are not immune to this syndrome either, but many fewer captains do it, as they have come to realize that keeping well ahead of the jet is in their (and their crews) best interests. These electric jets are made to be flown on autopilot, and are much more economical when done so. Just ask (retired) Captain B. McKelvy, who always hand flew the Airbus and never saved a drop of gas.
05-02-2008 | 10:19 PM
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So that WAS you--didn't mean to put you so far behind the jet, sir!
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05-02-2008 | 11:14 PM
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The agony, the horror.
05-03-2008 | 03:12 AM
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The "Boy" has a point. If you can't land/fly, the AirBus is for you. As you can see by the videos, when a bus guy tries to fly the 11 it just doesn't work.
5 years in the right seat of the MD and one year left seat of the Bus. Now back on the MD for two years in the left seat. So, unlike most of the guys on here I've done both. Why only one year in the left seat of the Bus (when I had an 18 month freeze) THE BUS SUCKS! I begged Lewis and he let me out of my freeze. I was glad to go through another training cycle to escape the uptight Bus.
The 11 is much more user friendly. It does what you tell it to do.... the bus, well it has a mind of it's own and will F#$K you from time to time.
The trips are much better.
Unless you have flown both airplanes don't argue with me... because you just don't know.. That means you BoyCaptain 12 years on the Bus you don't have a point of reference. Too bad you got kicked off your MD-11 LAX bid, it sucks to be too junior to hold it. Maybe later
5 years in the right seat of the MD and one year left seat of the Bus. Now back on the MD for two years in the left seat. So, unlike most of the guys on here I've done both. Why only one year in the left seat of the Bus (when I had an 18 month freeze) THE BUS SUCKS! I begged Lewis and he let me out of my freeze. I was glad to go through another training cycle to escape the uptight Bus.
The 11 is much more user friendly. It does what you tell it to do.... the bus, well it has a mind of it's own and will F#$K you from time to time.
The trips are much better.
Unless you have flown both airplanes don't argue with me... because you just don't know.. That means you BoyCaptain 12 years on the Bus you don't have a point of reference. Too bad you got kicked off your MD-11 LAX bid, it sucks to be too junior to hold it. Maybe later
you are pretty dumb for an old guy...go ahead and tell everyone senior to you how great the 11 is...you are on the verge of being excessed now...get those old 72 manuals out!....you may get to fly with foxhunter...everyone listen to r1200...the bus stinks..the 11 is awesome....my point of reference is that i am 700 numbers senior to you
05-03-2008 | 03:35 AM
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Everyone makes choices in their lives. If some choose to exercise their airman's certificate for less pay than others, so be it. That doesn't make hand flying very large jets into and out of risky airports smart. As for the PM or NFP having to work hard, that's not really the point. The point is that with both pilots spending more time as monitors, the chances of something being done wrong by the crew is less likely. But feel free to continue to hand fly as much as you like. With the Captains permission, of course.
05-03-2008 | 06:13 AM
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Why don't we just cut to the chase and move this thread to the PHOTO section. Then everyone can post a picture (no telephoto lens) of their P...., sorry, Wrist Watch and see who's is bigger!!
05-03-2008 | 06:24 AM
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