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Old 05-21-2008, 12:57 PM
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The way the instructor gig worked for me was you're guaranteed an interview. You still have to pass through the hoops.. but it's more like they're looking to qualify you rather than disqualify you if that makes any sense. It's your's to lose in other words.

They may still offer the option of jumping the hoops in the beginning then after the 3 years you're guaranteed the seniority number.
Old Info... My understanding of the process now is they do the line interview with a tad bit of extra and then when their time is up they get a line number... Also the old way fo where the company has to be hiring for the line is gone.. I think they GO automatically CONTRACTUALLY...

I didn't do the above but know a few that have and that is what I am told... Seems like a good way to get on with all the lastest..

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I threw boxes at night to help pay for my aviation degree....10pm-130am.

My body aches just thinking about it.
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I think the age 65 legislation will slow things down a little but not by 5 years. Just flew with a guy who has less than 12 months until he turns 60 and he’s already counting the days until he’s 'free'. He said there’s no way in hell he’ll stay past 60.

Eventually things will go back to normal, in other words both companies will realize they’ve been understaffed for about 12 months or so and will start hiring like crazy. Might be next year or 2010 or who knows?

However, once that happens I think your best bet of getting hired at UPS (and FedEx too I think) is to be flying heavies all over the world but of course any PIC time will help. That will help you way more than any box throwing experiences you might have (which is not a bad idea per se).

Things that will help you the most in my view are:

Heavy jet experience,
International experience,
IOE &/or SIM instructor experience,
Very strong recommendations from former co-workers
Attending job fairs/seminars,
Lots of luck.
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Word is we have had 2-3 retirements since the age changed.
I think we will have a better guess on retirements after the Nov-Dec time frame.
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In regards to working for a year on a different side of the house to get an interview:

Do you have to be currentley employed by FedEx Express, or can you "have" worked for over a year in the past?

How fast does your interveiw come?

Does UPS have a similar policy?
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... Does UPS have a similar policy?
I'm not sure if there's an official policy but a very good friend of mine (we knew each other before UPS and we ended up in the very same class at UPS) used to throw boxes for big brown for a few years, then he quit UPS to build his flight time. He said that without his past experience he probably wouldn't have gotten hired as he felt he butchered the sim. ride. However, one of the HR interviewers used to throw boxes herself and the HR interview turned into a very good experience for him.

He said his box-smasher background definitely helped him but others will say it won't help at all. I think it's very individual and of course it really depends on how well you got along with your co-workers and your supervisors while employed as they will contact your previous supervisors.
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Old 05-21-2008, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChinsFive View Post
In regards to working for a year on a different side of the house to get an interview:

Do you have to be currentley employed by FedEx Express, or can you "have" worked for over a year in the past?

How fast does your interveiw come?

Does UPS have a similar policy?
As it is an internal hire, you have to be a current employee. Non Flight Training internals only get interviewed when the company is hiring pilots, but if they meet the min quals, get first shot at an interview before guys on the street. I was in the 1st class after a long period of not hiring. We had 6 ex-sim instructors, 1 ramp guy, 1 courier and 4 external hires. The next couple classes had similar makeups. All the internals with more than 1 year, who didn't tank the interview process, got in one of those classes.
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:13 PM
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thanks for the words of wisdom. I'm pretty far off from meeting the quals let alone being competitive but this is something I have always wanted and want to position myself early on.

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