What do you FedEx guys think of this?
03-13-2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by To Stay or Go
Hello folks, this is Tom Nicholson (UPS 747 Cpt and IPA Pres) with the EB Hotline for Saturday, March 11th.
This week saw the pilots of Federal Express, as represented by ALPA, and FedEx management move much closer to a final agreement. Industry experts believe a deal at UPS archrival FedEx could come within a matter of weeks.
This week saw the pilots of Federal Express, as represented by ALPA, and FedEx management move much closer to a final agreement. Industry experts believe a deal at UPS archrival FedEx could come within a matter of weeks.
We wish you guys the very best during your negotiations process but I wonder what is up with the wrong information?!
Just curious...
P.S. I agree with Tony--TWO YEARS IS TOO LONG!
03-13-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
Help me guys, arent we in competition with UPS? Why would we want them to have a contract before we do? Let them fight their own battles.
03-13-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
On a side note there is no way in the world the govt. is going to let FedEx strike.
Oh?
What mechanism will they use to prevent a strike?
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03-13-2006, 02:49 PM
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Remember AA back in the late 90s? And that was under Clinton! Fines, bureacratic tactics, you name it. As much weight as FDX moves , the govt cant afford a strike. The best way to get a timely contract is to fly the current contract to the extreme. Much to the dismay of many, I dont think that striking is a possibility not because of resolve but because of govt. power.
03-13-2006, 03:00 PM
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Educate yourself on the Railway Labor Act before you start making such claims. Here's a starter:
The President may create an emergency board to investigate and report on a dispute over the terms of a collective bargaining agreement. Under the Railway Labor Act, the President may exercise his discretion to create an emergency board when the labor dispute threatens "substantially to interrupt interstate commerce to a degree such as to deprive any section of the country of essential transportation service."
Creation of an emergency board delays a strike, lockout or other form of self-help, generally for 60 days. The emergency board has 30 days to issue its report. Generally, emergency boards provide recommendations for settlement of the dispute. After the emergency board reports to the President, the parties to the dispute have another 30 day cooling off period to consider the recommendations of the emergency board and to reach an agreement.
If no agreement is reached at the end of the cooling off period, then the parties may engage in self-help, including strikes, lockouts and unilateral changes in terms and conditions of employment.
A Presidential Emergency Board can delay a strike, but it can not prevent one.
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The President may create an emergency board to investigate and report on a dispute over the terms of a collective bargaining agreement. Under the Railway Labor Act, the President may exercise his discretion to create an emergency board when the labor dispute threatens "substantially to interrupt interstate commerce to a degree such as to deprive any section of the country of essential transportation service."
Creation of an emergency board delays a strike, lockout or other form of self-help, generally for 60 days. The emergency board has 30 days to issue its report. Generally, emergency boards provide recommendations for settlement of the dispute. After the emergency board reports to the President, the parties to the dispute have another 30 day cooling off period to consider the recommendations of the emergency board and to reach an agreement.
If no agreement is reached at the end of the cooling off period, then the parties may engage in self-help, including strikes, lockouts and unilateral changes in terms and conditions of employment.
A Presidential Emergency Board can delay a strike, but it can not prevent one.
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03-13-2006, 03:18 PM
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Yea go tell that to the ATC guys. Ill put it like this, those airplanes are going to fly whether we like it or not. What are we going to sue the company if they have replacements fly those airplanes? FDX is to much part of the fabric of the economy for it to shutdown. Thats not a bad thing. If we fly the contract. Thats a whole lot more effective than striking.
Better to be the annoying wife that wont give it up than ***** that shouts and threatens to leave. Its time to get annoying.
I dont expect that the RLA is respected as much as you would like. Ultimately the govt. has the power and it sides with Mgmt not us.
Better to be the annoying wife that wont give it up than ***** that shouts and threatens to leave. Its time to get annoying.
I dont expect that the RLA is respected as much as you would like. Ultimately the govt. has the power and it sides with Mgmt not us.
03-13-2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
Yea go tell that to the ATC guys. Ill put it like this, those airplanes are going to fly whether we like it or not. What are we going to sue the company if they have replacements fly those airplanes? FDX is to much part of the fabric of the economy for it to shutdown. Thats not a bad thing. If we fly the contract. Thats a whole lot more effective than striking.
Better to be the annoying wife that wont give it up than ***** that shouts and threatens to leave. Its time to get annoying.
I dont expect that the RLA is respected as much as you would like. Ultimately the govt. has the power and it sides with Mgmt not us.
ATC??? How, pray tell, does ATC have anything to do with a job action?
Replacements? How long did your FAA required Indoctrination course last? By the time the Scab replacements Indoc is done, and the airplane-specific training begins, a FedEx without pilots would no longer be FedEx - - Fred can't afford to miss the "Absolutely, Positively, Overnight" guarantee ONE day, much less two weeks. If you think we can be replaced, you are grossly misinformed and severely undervalue the contribution of FedEx pilots to the FedEx system.
Fly the contract? Of course. The Company won't mind - - THEY WROTE IT!
You don't think the RLA is respected, huh? ON what data do you base that judgment? Have you run this perspective by a NWA or COMAIR pilot that walked?
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03-13-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jack
Help me guys, arent we in competition with UPS? Why would we want them to have a contract before we do? Let them fight their own battles.
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