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AerisArmis 08-20-2008 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 447236)
But since you bring it up,

Huh? Are you sure you're not a politician? You roll a steaming turd into the room, and when someone says, "what's that smell"?, you say, "since you brought up smell, let me pontificate on that"! ....Just responding to your fantasy amigo, you brought it up and can't support it, no big whoop.

Sideshow Bob 08-20-2008 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by AerisArmis (Post 447340)
Huh? Are you sure you're not a politician? You roll a steaming turd into the room, and when someone says, "what's that smell"?, you say, "since you brought up smell, let me pontificate on that"! ....Just responding to your fantasy amigo, you brought it up and can't support it, no big whoop.

So what is ALPA at Fed Ex's position on the Teamsters organizing on the property? That might be the turd you speak of, and it does kinda stink if you're the one making less than their counterpart across the street.

buggs 08-20-2008 05:38 PM

Would my UPS coworkers please shut up and stop putting salt in the wound. These guys are getting screwed. We are lucky to be at UPS at this moment. It could be us, and it has been me in the past. Now, just leave it be, and stop making us look so bad.

Commando 08-20-2008 06:52 PM

FDX ALPA's position is the same as it is at all ALPA carriers. WE WANT IT ALL. I have close friends at FDX and DL who want everyone on property to be non union accept the Pilots. It's called Greed. The pie is only so big, and we want the biggest piece.

This is why you never see support for others to get a better life/work rules at work from the unionized pilots at DL or FDX.

But they only admit it after a couple of Beers.

FDXLAG 08-20-2008 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 447436)
FDX ALPA's position is the same as it is at all ALPA carriers. WE WANT IT ALL. I have close friends at FDX and DL who want everyone on property to be non union accept the Pilots. It's called Greed. The pie is only so big, and we want the biggest piece.

This is why you never see support for others to get a better life/work rules at work from the unionized pilots at DL or FDX.

But they only admit it after a couple of Beers.


Bullship. I'll bet I have talked to more FDX pilots than you. I haven't heard anyone talk against anyone joining a union. The reaction is either full support or ambivalence. As long as it is a fair election let them have it.

Besides I thought unions made the workers more productive. That makes the pie bigger. Read up on your propaganda.

Commando 08-20-2008 07:52 PM

Wrong. Ask again. Has FDX ALPA ever publicly supported its Drivers or MX. to Unionize? Has DL? There's your answer. Since your profile says your an FE, maybe your new to this game.

Busboy 08-20-2008 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 447476)
Wrong. Ask again. Has FDX ALPA ever publicly supported its Drivers or MX. to Unionize? ...


Absolutely, positively, they have publicly supported the drives to unionize.

You need to do 2 or 3 minutes of research before blurting out such nonsense.

FDXLAG 08-21-2008 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 447476)
Wrong. Ask again. Has FDX ALPA ever publicly supported its Drivers or MX. to Unionize? Has DL? There's your answer. Since your profile says your an FE, maybe your new to this game.

Your assumptions are wrong in many ways.

1. Pilots at FDX support union membership for anyone that wants it.

2. FDX ALPA would cross it's membership in heartbeat if they thought they could gain a victory for big labor.

3. I am much more likely to know what FDX pilots want than you are.

AerisArmis 08-21-2008 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Commando (Post 447476)
Has FDX ALPA ever publicly supported its Drivers or MX. to Unionize?

Yes, on numerous occasions. Time to make up something else and throw it out as fact. You're busted on this one.

Commando 08-21-2008 02:46 PM

I've never read it or seen this happen. For example, the FDX Non-union contractors. There's court cases all over the US with Attorney Generals saying they are employees. and FDX has lost every time. And I haven't heard a peep from FDX ALPA supporting these guys. I dont think FDX has won one case when it comes to this.

All my buddies say they would rather everyone on property stay non-union. More money for us. The only problem is, your leader is a guy named Webb who golfs with Fred.


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