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08-22-2008 | 06:12 PM
#81
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08-22-2008 | 06:13 PM
#82
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Mod note:
The post Normy made was removed by a mod for unacceptable language. That's pretty obvious if you look where the post used to be. He was asked to repost after removing the language problem, which he did.
As always, if anyone has a problem with how the site is run or questions about the moderation, the proper course of action would be to PM HSLD or Freight Dog.
Thanks.
The post Normy made was removed by a mod for unacceptable language. That's pretty obvious if you look where the post used to be. He was asked to repost after removing the language problem, which he did.
As always, if anyone has a problem with how the site is run or questions about the moderation, the proper course of action would be to PM HSLD or Freight Dog.
Thanks.
Bullship. I'll bet I have talked to more FDX pilots than you. I haven't heard anyone talk against anyone joining a union. The reaction is either full support or ambivalence. As long as it is a fair election let them have it.
Besides I thought unions made the workers more productive. That makes the pie bigger. Read up on your propaganda.
Besides I thought unions made the workers more productive. That makes the pie bigger. Read up on your propaganda.
08-22-2008 | 06:21 PM
#83
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From: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
Mod note:
"If FDXLAG was not involved, I offer my apologies!"
He was not.
We don't allow personal attacks at APC.
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"If FDXLAG was not involved, I offer my apologies!"
He was not.
We don't allow personal attacks at APC.
TOS excerpt:
"Please use the "good neighbor" policy when posting to this site. If you wouldn't say it to your neighbor face to face, than don't say it here (and we are talking about a hypothetical neighbor that you like and respect, not necessarily your current neighbor)."
08-22-2008 | 06:27 PM
#85
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Mod note:
"If FDXLAG was not involved, I offer my apologies!"
He was not.
We don't allow personal attacks at APC.
TOS excerpt:
"Please use the "good neighbor" policy when posting to this site. If you wouldn't say it to your neighbor face to face, than don't say it here (and we are talking about a hypothetical neighbor that you like and respect, not necessarily your current neighbor)."
"If FDXLAG was not involved, I offer my apologies!"
He was not.
We don't allow personal attacks at APC.
TOS excerpt:
"Please use the "good neighbor" policy when posting to this site. If you wouldn't say it to your neighbor face to face, than don't say it here (and we are talking about a hypothetical neighbor that you like and respect, not necessarily your current neighbor)."
08-22-2008 | 06:31 PM
#86
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08-22-2008 | 07:02 PM
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From: MD11 CPT
And no I didn't make it up
FedEx Drivers Demand Employee Status (Arizona Republic, Aug. 22)
If FedEx can tell its ground-service drivers when to work, what to charge customers and what kind of socks and shoes to wear, shouldn’t they be considered employee? That’s what ground workers say in a lawsuit they have filed against the company.
As drivers in a nationwide lawsuit demand the federal pension benefits that are reserved for employees, FedEx founder and Chief Executive Officer Fred Smith has a lot at stake. If a judge in Indiana decides the drivers are employees, they'll seek $1 billion in damages. Plus, it may force the company to overhaul or even throw out a business model that provides FedEx Ground a cost advantage over rival UPS.
"The case does not look good for FedEx," said Michael Harper, a Boston University law professor who is writing the chapter on the definition of "employee" for the Restatement of Employment Law, a reference work to be published by the American Law Institute. The dispute has opened FedEx up to a series of related legal responsibilities, including a potential pretax liability from unpaid payroll taxes of as much as $2.5 billion.
The bigger problem for the second-largest U.S. package-delivery company may be how to overhaul the business model to make it compliant.
A Teamsters Union financial model predicts FedEx's costs would go up $426 million a year if the company compensated the drivers as it does present employees. The model assumes FedEx would pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, unemployment and worker-compensation insurance, vacations, health insurance and 15 hours a week of overtime.
08-22-2008 | 07:15 PM
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This just out...
And no I didn't make it up
FedEx Drivers Demand Employee Status (Arizona Republic, Aug. 22)
If FedEx can tell its ground-service drivers when to work, what to charge customers and what kind of socks and shoes to wear, shouldn’t they be considered employee? That’s what ground workers say in a lawsuit they have filed against the company.
As drivers in a nationwide lawsuit demand the federal pension benefits that are reserved for employees, FedEx founder and Chief Executive Officer Fred Smith has a lot at stake. If a judge in Indiana decides the drivers are employees, they'll seek $1 billion in damages. Plus, it may force the company to overhaul or even throw out a business model that provides FedEx Ground a cost advantage over rival UPS.
"The case does not look good for FedEx," said Michael Harper, a Boston University law professor who is writing the chapter on the definition of "employee" for the Restatement of Employment Law, a reference work to be published by the American Law Institute. The dispute has opened FedEx up to a series of related legal responsibilities, including a potential pretax liability from unpaid payroll taxes of as much as $2.5 billion.
The bigger problem for the second-largest U.S. package-delivery company may be how to overhaul the business model to make it compliant.
A Teamsters Union financial model predicts FedEx's costs would go up $426 million a year if the company compensated the drivers as it does present employees. The model assumes FedEx would pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, unemployment and worker-compensation insurance, vacations, health insurance and 15 hours a week of overtime.
And no I didn't make it up
FedEx Drivers Demand Employee Status (Arizona Republic, Aug. 22)
If FedEx can tell its ground-service drivers when to work, what to charge customers and what kind of socks and shoes to wear, shouldn’t they be considered employee? That’s what ground workers say in a lawsuit they have filed against the company.
As drivers in a nationwide lawsuit demand the federal pension benefits that are reserved for employees, FedEx founder and Chief Executive Officer Fred Smith has a lot at stake. If a judge in Indiana decides the drivers are employees, they'll seek $1 billion in damages. Plus, it may force the company to overhaul or even throw out a business model that provides FedEx Ground a cost advantage over rival UPS.
"The case does not look good for FedEx," said Michael Harper, a Boston University law professor who is writing the chapter on the definition of "employee" for the Restatement of Employment Law, a reference work to be published by the American Law Institute. The dispute has opened FedEx up to a series of related legal responsibilities, including a potential pretax liability from unpaid payroll taxes of as much as $2.5 billion.
The bigger problem for the second-largest U.S. package-delivery company may be how to overhaul the business model to make it compliant.
A Teamsters Union financial model predicts FedEx's costs would go up $426 million a year if the company compensated the drivers as it does present employees. The model assumes FedEx would pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, unemployment and worker-compensation insurance, vacations, health insurance and 15 hours a week of overtime.
08-22-2008 | 07:33 PM
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From: 777 Capt
Norm, you are one stand-up guy. I’ll bet there’s more than a few ABX and Astar guys interested to network with you. There’s a lot of networking going on around here already!
You speak volumes about the group of guys/gals crewing FDX jets. Thank you, sir.
You speak volumes about the group of guys/gals crewing FDX jets. Thank you, sir.
08-22-2008 | 07:35 PM
#90
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From: 777 Capt
I’m not buying your explanation, de727ups. I saw Norms original post. There was no unacceptable language. Norm said it was removed by FedexlaG, but there is no member by that name. What’s going on, de727ups?
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