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CRJammin 03-17-2006 04:26 PM

Contract Predictions at UPS/FEDEX?
 
Hello all,

I will start by predicting that UPS will get contract agreement first, and this summer already, but only after the first Tentative Agreement is voted down. I'm sensing some p'ed off pilots right now that will be hard pressed to say yes to the first bone thrown their way Pay will be tops for cargo carriers, especially with their high guarantee, but only until FedEx signs theirs.

FedEx pilots will vote theirs in handily, but later in the fall. A380 rates will be the highest paying in the world for our profession, nearly 280 /hour. Fast upgrades will mean money will be much better than at UPS. With the vastly better work culture, FedEx will be the new Delta, United, and American. 6 year first officers will make what a Northwest or Delta 757 captain make.

If I am off my rocker, I'd like to hear it. Other opinions would be great from those pursuing the two like I am.

EDPM 03-17-2006 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by CRJammin
If I am off my rocker, I'd like to hear it. Other opinions would be great from those pursuing the two like I am.

You might be right. You might be wrong. You might be partially right. Anyone else who offers their opinion will be giving you just that...opinion.

The reality is that until both contracts are signed, it’s all speculation. If you’re going to make your decision about which of the 2 companies to pursue based on your own predictions and the opinions of other anonymous posters, you might as ask for lottery numbers while you’re at it.

EDPM

CRJammin 03-17-2006 05:32 PM

It's all speculation, which makes this fun IMO. I think both airlines are rock solid and at the top of my heap of airline picks, but will take your advice to base my decision based more than this forum. My sponsors have given me some good info anyway.

T-1A Guy 03-17-2006 07:24 PM

CR...For what its worth. I think your prediction is right on the money

Nashmd11 03-17-2006 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by CRJammin
Hello all,

I will start by predicting that UPS will get contract agreement first, and this summer already, but only after the first Tentative Agreement is voted down. I'm sensing some p'ed off pilots right now that will be hard pressed to say yes to the first bone thrown their way Pay will be tops for cargo carriers, especially with their high guarantee, but only until FedEx signs theirs.

FedEx pilots will vote theirs in handily, but later in the fall. A380 rates will be the highest paying in the world for our profession, nearly 280 /hour. Fast upgrades will mean money will be much better than at UPS. With the vastly better work culture, FedEx will be the new Delta, United, and American. 6 year first officers will make what a Northwest or Delta 757 captain make.

If I am off my rocker, I'd like to hear it. Other opinions would be great from those pursuing the two like I am.

You got one thing right. The Work Rules at FDX are so far ahead of UPS's it's not even close. And not to mention the Hiring difference.

And I also feel, whatever both Pilot Groups get in the end, it will not be enough. Both groups will not have Great Contracts. Good, but not Great. The Scheduling Article's will be Wins for Management. Sad but True.

jack 03-17-2006 09:40 PM

plus, at fedex we are better looking.

FR8Hauler 03-17-2006 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nashmd11
You got one thing right. The Work Rules at FDX are so far ahead of UPS's it's not even close. And not to mention the Hiring difference.

And I also feel, whatever both Pilot Groups get in the end, it will not be enough. Both groups will not have Great Contracts. Good, but not Great. The Scheduling Article's will be Wins for Management. Sad but True.

You are probably right in this statement. Both companies are great and the best on is the one that hires you first.

dckozak 03-18-2006 10:30 AM

Got yours ??
 

Originally Posted by jack
plus, at fedex we are better looking.

But only when wearing your hat. :(

Haven't you heard, chicks dig it ;) :D

Sasquatch 03-18-2006 11:22 PM

CRJamming, your timing might not play out, but the end result will be what you're predicting. This career has been turned upside down in 5 short years.

UPSAv8tr 03-19-2006 02:42 AM

The work rules at FDX will no doubt be better, but the job security at UPS is unrivaled. Not that FDX is teetering, of course. Money is probably gonna be a wash.


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