Originally Posted by WorldDC10 (Post 455233)

Latest bid just came out. We still need to hire 10 DC10 FO's and 17 MD11 FO's.

As OKBK said I wouldn't be at all surprised if they increase the number of crews on the DC10 for the latest addition to the fleet, everyone on the fleet is working a lot at the moment.

Originally Posted by JetPiedmont (Post 455501)

How many days a month are you gone? How many hours do you fly?

Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 455653)

For the 10 guys it's really your choice. If you want to be at home, you will be out 12 - 15 days a month. If you want to earn, you can be out 18 - 24 days a month.

This isn't a hard fast rule as sometimes the guys who just want to earn a steady paycheck get shafted and are stuck out as much as 18 days; and the same for the guys who want OT, they may only work a 12 day month sometimes.


Guarantee is 12 days off a month, 6 hard where they can't touch you; 6 soft where you can be "non volunteered" - this is a rarity. One can always volunteer your off days. Pay is an extra 3.6 hours on top of whatever you have earned.

Originally Posted by JetPiedmont (Post 455983)

Thanks, very informative.

Since you're understaffed, do you have many reserves, or does most everyone have a regular line?

Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop (Post 456218)

Here's the way it works. We have home reserve with a short call out and a 76 hour guarentee and open time lines with a long, 16 hour call out and a 65 hour guarentee. At least 50% of the pilot force is on a open time line since alot of flying isn't finalized by the time bid lines are constructed. OTL is the junior assignment. The only question is what you consider reserve?

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 456229)

Thanks for all the good information. Is there a big difference between the DC10 and MD11 flying in terms of routes these days? I realize they can fly anywhere on demand at any time. That said, do the DC10s tend to do more Europe and Middle East while the MD11s do those places plus Asia, South America, etc.?

Originally Posted by dutch747 (Post 456247)

The 10 does almost exclusively military flying. So you can bet on Europe and SE Asia. But we also pick up a lot of ADHOC work from the military that takes us out into the Pacific. I spent most of my summer flying HNL - Guam - Darwin - Japan and ANC. The MD flies everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE. The MD flies contracts for Air France and Lufthansa (Just to name a few) as well as Military flights.

Originally Posted by JetPiedmont (Post 457046)

Are the DC-10 pilots happy with the staffing level so they can fly extra, or do they wish the company would hire more pilots for the Ten?