FDX-New Negotiating Committee Chairman
 

"Tomorrow a Special MEC Meeting will convene to begin the interview process for the open Negotiating Committee Chairman position. The Special MEC Meeting is scheduled to conclude on Thursday, December 4th.
All interviews will be conducted in open session so that interested members in good standing may attend."

Please post an immediate summation of said interrogatory on the ALPA side or email; no more Whiskey Delta excuses. (Tony C, Albie, Micro et al.) Not everyone is physically able to attend, and in this electronic age-pardon, that is giving too much license to this group of union leaders-telegraphic age, no excuse to give a timely after action report or post-mortem for this critical leadership position.

I also hope for a timely report. But I hope I don't read it here.

I can't get on the ALPA website to reference an e-mail on who the candidates are and I don't have the candidates permission to post their names here but I'll PM them to you. I won't give you a WD excuse but I'm not seated yet,have no vote, and am not yet able to send e-mails with the union. As the meeting is in open session I would hope the union puts out some details (one of my major problems with how things have been run). I know some of the applicants and others I don't. If you know one of these guys and think they would do a great job, WRITE OR CALL YOU REP AND TELL HIM SO. Call me personally (my cells in VIPS) and I'll tell you how I saw things went. I won't sugercoat it.

A message line is out and on our ALPA website with the names.

Thanks Micro for the timely response, but I believe everyone in good standing should have received an email as to who the candidates are, but little is known of their seniority or block membership and previous experiences. Thank you for being upfront, but no disrespect intended when I say I have heard the "I will be upfront and a standup guy when I am elected(seated) routine". All I am pointing out is if we have a comm guy(do we?) lets hear some salient facts without the lawyer BS inherent in our comms.

Groan, no mission statement, no hi-ya how 'R ya,how'z it goin, this is me, not even a reach around.:mad: Shame on youz candidates.

Dave S. should be the overwhelming choice. He is a brilliant spokesman who has done his homework and understands what is broke in our scheduling system. However, he would probably be asked to resign like FE since he is not a Kool-Aide drinker either.

You're right, Dave would be a fantastic choice! I've told my Rep that too.
Keep your fingers crossed, maybe we'll get lucky.
fbh

Look up "no nonsense" in the dictionary and there is a picture of Dave.

Dave is an honest, bright guy, with an exceptional work ethic. Go Dave!

P.S. Can I see that picture of your daughter again, Please?

Dave or John G. are the obvious candidates. John has tremendous experience in Negotiating, R & I, and scheduling. In addition he is a mid level Seniority guy (Read no special interest). Many remember Mike W., lots and lots of baggage. the rest just don't have the requisite experience IMHO.:cool:

Way to go DS for stepping up!

This guy is completely committed to the betterment of the entire pilot group and is a no nonsense guy all the way around, a total straight shooter. His knowledge of the contract is extremely sound and he would be a great choice.

Outstanding that we've got a couple of sharp guys in the hunt.

WM

Ditto! Shinn is a good dude.

Don't know DS, but I do know JG would be a good choice. Has the experience and knows the issues. Just wondering, I know the interviews are open to the membership, but what about the MEC deliberation and vote. That is what I would make a trip to MEM to see. Would like to see if DW tries to steer the MEC to his choice. At least, I would like to know how each MEC member voted.

From the Communications Chairman
Be Politically Active or Be a Political Victim
Captain BrXX MXXXXX AUGUST 2008

"I read an e-mail from our Pilot-to-Pilot Vice Chairman Captain Bob Wallace the other day and he wrote something that crystallizes the basic truth of our American system of government. We can be politically active or we will be political victims."

Last communication update from this empty suit was August, is their any reason why we can not have streaming video, or a "twitter" update in real time as to what is taking place during the interview process, or for that matter a timely summation of the days activities?

Cheers to that. Another D.S. supporter here. I don't know J.G. but hear through the grapevine that he would be a solid pick as well.

Go Dave! :D

"Tomorrow a Special MEC Meeting will convene to begin the interview process for the open Negotiating Committee Chairman position. The Special MEC Meeting is scheduled to conclude on Thursday, December 4th.
All interviews will be conducted in open session so that interested members in good standing may attend."
This is directed at the FDX ALPA leadership and NC chair candidates--
What a bunch of losers you are, with an issue as important as this that affects the immediate future of relations vis a vis our pilot group and the company, not ONE of the candidates has seen fit to introduce himself nor were they compelled to. Its as if we were chosing an NC chair by shooting at a barrel of fish, blindly. Who are these guys? Buds of some of you, or "good guys" who bought the beer on a layover. Meh! Thursday the process ends, and will we hear about who was "selected" from on high above, or maybe not. Open session, hardly.

Al......such anger......relax my man, you're gonna pop a cork. The MEC is picking them and I'm guessing they will see fit to introduce themselves to the board. The procedure is well established, they pitch themselves to the MEC and the MEC then picks the guy who DW wants.:mad: I say this partly in jest because there are some new MEC faces that just may think outside the webb ( a small play on words). Dave S is a "bud", a "good guy" and "buys beer" but he is also as solid as a rock and it would be your good fortune to have him as a friend and as our NC guy. One more thing, what in the heck does "Meh!" mean?

I think you might be overreacting a little. This has turned out to be a somewhat spur of the moment deal with the "loss" of FE. I think it is ok to point a finger at our ALPA leadership for handling this so poorly, but unfair to make dispairaging remarks about the candidates who are willing to step up to volunteer for this thankless job.

I love comments like this!! It's no "routine". I can't send an e-mail through ALPA until seated. Period. When I'm seated you'll hear from me.

It's being looked into. I won't blow smoke up your a$$ that it will happen tomorrow, but a lot of "newly" elected reps are trying to make it happen. You want a brief on that and what happened with today's neg chair interviews, call me. I'll give you my take.

Maybe you should read the policy manual. YOU don't get a vote on this. The MEC selects the Neg Chair and it is the MEC who the candidates forward their cover letters and resumes to. As far as open session, a number of non-MEC pilots attended, spoke for candidates, and asked questions of the candidates (which the MEC didn't have to allow). If you're so interested, why weren't you there. I attended and don't have a vote.

Once again, thanx Micro for responding, maybe it is because you haven't yet been put through the process of being seated, which I hear involves putting your testicles in a vise and having them squeezed to ~ by our MEC chair til you say "yes sir, no sir" three times:D
I understand we have a Republican form of representation, but if it is open to all of the membership, doesn't that that imply an open forum with comment and opinions from all in attendance, in order to influence the outcome? Finally, don't all of us have a stake in who the next NC chair will be, and if we do, can't we be trusted to see their "cover letters and resumes" as well? Let's get some more transparency involved so we can be more apprised of the MEC thought process, after all, wasn't this a major gripe with the Wilson Center polling results?

Meh
Indifference; to be used when one simply does not care.
A: What do you want for dinner?
B: Meh.

Al - let me know if you're in receipt. Thanks.

Oh the pain!! Make it tighter!!:D
The meeting is open to the membership but that doesn't give you the right to question the candidates. This MEC has allowed it though for those that attended. We all have a stake (I'm not sure if that's the correct word) in who the next NC will be as he and his team will be representing us at the table. As far as publishing the cover letters and resumes to the membership, that may be an idea in the future. However, the MEC doesn't pick the NC based on those documents. The interview process allows the candidate to express his/her views on why they should be NC and the MEC to question the candidate on all aspects to highlight abilities, etc. so that they can make an informed decision. My first exposure to the selection process and it seems to work quite well.

Yes, my profound thanks for your response and your willingness to step into the arena.

You didn't hear it from me, but....
It's been said by those who know that FE was fired because he represented the interests of younger pilots (read, lower 75 percent of the seniority list).

It's also been said that when certain senior (read over-60 or soon-to-be) pilots heard of a possible retirement incentive package on the table, they called their dear old friend FWS crying unfair, and Fred came in and "removed" any retirement talk from the table on behalf of management. Thus FE got basically worked-around and got his credibility compromised by the "elder generation."

There's a reason behind the phrase "shut up and color." All the junior (bottom three-quarters of the seniority list) guys have been blatantly rolled by DW and those wanting to cajole the uber-senior members.

One of the candidates for NC on the ALPA email list has been on DW's agenda since before FE was fired. Won't mention the name until he is voted in, but my sources suggest this one has been planned for quite some time, and the result will be a NC who caters to the top 25%., i.e.., no talking about 'A' fund, no increase in 'B' fund, etc.

It's also been said that the only reason there are no furloughs is the bean-counters can't find a way to make it save any money. The MEC (read DW) has expressed desire to explore that option before risking reduction of pay for senior members.

I hate anonymity, and I hate smoke & mirrors and cloak & dagger mystery talk. I don't like that I have to hear this kind of sch!tt "on the crew bus" from people who could make a difference but choose not to. I don't like having to read about (or post) this crap on a forum like this. But I no longer trust the MEC, and I have very little faith in my block reps. If you think I'm full of cr@p, PM me and I'll give you names, dates, times.

I still have the email my rep sent me answering the question, "was FE fired?" I'm going to save it until the truth comes out. My guess is it'll be a while before that happens...

It is unfortunate there is such a lack of trust ---- and, a critical first step is to increase transparency.

Is that something we can all agree on?

Micro,

Thanks for stepping up the plate. We need people that we can trust. There aren't many of them in our organization now. Good luck and thanks again!

I was told by my ALPA rep that FE was not fired, he just quit. However, I don't think FE is a quiter.

Same here.... Someone needs to come out with the real info...