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BoxDawg 01-13-2009 11:44 AM

Not to be too militant here, but what does anyone think about posting trip information and seat position for those guys that pick trips up, so that we can kind of police our own. They are only making things worse for the bottom guys, and everyone else too.

parks31 01-13-2009 11:50 AM

There are many different reasons to pick up trips. Not all are carryover or extra trips. Alot of people drop and swap often.

AirHead328 01-13-2009 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by BoxDawg (Post 537045)
Not to be too militant here, but what does anyone think about posting trip information and seat position for those guys that pick trips up, so that we can kind of police our own.

Did you not here about the United Airlines vs. their pilots lawsuit?

Sorry to say, but that is a bad idea...

CargoCan 01-13-2009 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by BoxDawg (Post 537045)
Not to be too militant here, but what does anyone think about posting trip information and seat position for those guys that pick trips up, so that we can kind of police our own. They are only making things worse for the bottom guys, and everyone else too.


I guess I'm confused. What is wrong with trip trading or flying make-up? Its not EXTRA flying. Besides Xmas week, has anyone had a DRF call lately? What are we policing, people improving their schedule???

NoHaz 01-13-2009 01:02 PM

I was more referring to the possibility of scheduling holding back trips and assigning to reserves

BoxDawg 01-13-2009 01:53 PM

I have a friend who just flew with a 72 FO who has picked up 4-5 days of flying for a total of 30 additional hours pay this month. Thats what I am talking about, not trip swapping.

MaydayMark 01-13-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by NoHaz (Post 537093)
I was more referring to the possibility of scheduling holding back trips and assigning to reserves

I've been on Reserve for most of the last 3 years. I watch open time pretty closely and can count on one hand the number of trips I was assigned that I ever saw in open time

kwri10s 01-13-2009 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by NoHaz (Post 537093)
I was more referring to the possibility of scheduling holding back trips and assigning to reserves

I can specifically speak for my trip this week. FO called in sick at 1400 ish, still listed on the release at 0200 and scheduling used an airport standby to fill the launch to Europe. The trip never went into open time. They knew he was sick and didn't assign the trip until the last minute. Things that make you go HMMM.

Logs 01-13-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by BoxDawg (Post 537123)
I have a friend who just flew with a 72 FO who has picked up 4-5 days of flying for a total of 30 additional hours pay this month. Thats what I am talking about, not trip swapping.

So what's your point? If he flew it as M/U then he is only recouping pay to which he was entitled previously. If it was DRF/VLT, then it's a different story. Regardless, are you going to ask guys in the cockpit to disclose under which pay category they are operating each and every trip? Don't get me wrong, I'm just as hot as you about current events, but, IMO, your vector should be redirected. ;)

MX727 01-13-2009 02:46 PM

They were drafting in the 'Bus last night. Probably for ASTBY. He didn't leave details on the voicemail.


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