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So Kalitta Charters 2 is looking for 727 Pic/Sics again. Any latest news and is K2 better or IFL? I have been called by both but am rated on some K2 aircraft but it does not seem to matter. It looks like I'll need a new job in June/July. Home basing/housing provide, schedule and benefits/jumpseat (with best agreements) are most important. I'd really like to fly the 727 and at K2 it sounds to be the best deal. Even go as an FO vs. Capt on 737 or DC-9. Thanks.

IFL has pretty pathetic jumpseat agreements. Pretty much the only carriers that you can jumpseat with are UPS and Spirit. I know that the schedule for the Falcon is 18 on 12 off, and I believe that it's the same for the 727.

2 CRJs are on property. They don't have doors in them yet. First one with a door cut into it should be coming soon. I believe it's basically ready for delivery. Just working out the paperwork.

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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 2116560)

K2 does not have home basing
Housing / cars at base are provided for 727 crews only
Schedules are different for each fleet
Right now there is no flow through from one fleet to another
Base is YIP , no jumpseat agreement with Delta mainline ( have pretty much all the rest).

Apparently IFL has raised the pay for the 727. Getting back and forth to PTK is another matter.

From what I've recently heard.......IFL 727 has a very high attrition and failure rate, about 100%. They claim that everyone passes training, but that's only the ones they choose to pass,everyone else is either dismissed, fired, or quits. Pass rate is not the same as Finish rate, where maybe 0/10 finishes training, IOE and the 2 year contract. The ONE and only person XYZ who is really in charge of training/IOE has a lot of personal problems, and really takes enjoyment in making your life miserable, with failing people, demotion, mind games, or what ever he can do to to hurt someone. To top it all off, the company requires a Promisiry Note for the type rating, holding you prisoner with the threat of financial ruin if you quit or save yourself. So in the end, your lucky to make it out of IFL without any problems, be it either psychological or financial. But please don't take my word for it, go ahead and find out for yourself.

From what I've heard.....the training/IOE instructor, [GoDaddy], is a real psychopath, reminisces of some sort of Spokane serial killer.

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Originally Posted by Godaddy (Post 2124243)

From what I've recently heard.......IFL 727 has a very high attrition and failure rate, about 100%. They claim that everyone passes training, but that's only the ones they choose to pass,everyone else is either dismissed, fired, or quits. Pass rate is not the same as Finish rate, where maybe 0/10 finishes training, IOE and the 2 year contract. The ONE and only person [XYZ] who is really in charge of training/IOE has a lot of personal problems, and really takes enjoyment in making your life miserable, with failing people, demotion, mind games, or what ever he can do to to hurt someone. To top it all off, the company requires a Promisiry Note for the type rating, holding you prisoner with the threat of financial ruin if you quit or save yourself. So in the end, your lucky to make it out of IFL without any problems, be it either psychological or financial. But please don't take my word for it, go ahead and find out for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Godaddy (Post 2124260)

From what I've heard.....the training/IOE instructor, [GoDaddy] , is a real psychopath, reminisces of some sort of Spokane serial killer.

I’ll agree with some of that. [WOW] training style is different. It’s damn tough. There is a high washout rate. He is always playing with your mind. And there’s nothing like it… by far the best training I’ve received at any point in my career which includes all of flight school, three 121 initials, upgrade to FO on the 727, and upgrade to CA at my current gig.

Although I left IFL a while ago and am now in a modern jet, I still use [his/her] training daily, and end up passing down bits to my FO’s; everything from stick and rudder skills, to complex decision making. My IFL friends and I joke but it’s true, when met with a situation we’re not sure of, we think about “WWJPD”.

The training and checking I received in my 3+ years at IFL were the most comprehensive; in-depth; and, most importantly, fair that I have seen in this industry. It is astounding the number of people I fly with currently who don't seem to have the basic 121 jet airplane theory that JP so eloquently taught at IFL.

If you want to learn how to be a standard 121 button pusher, you can go anywhere. Anybody can teach you that. If you want a comprehensive course on how to be a professional, educated, systems oriented 121 aviator, go to IFL. JP's new hire Boeing training will set you on the path to career success.