What is the point of being an ALPA member if you will be a scab as soon as the @#$% hits the fan. Be a real man, become a non-member then we will all know what a #$%^ head you are when we fly with you. That way we won't make a mistake and hang out with you and eat dinner together. Get it over with. Take the plunge!

You are right. This clown is just an airline pilot wannabe. Lombardo would not even be this brazen.

8menout1 claims to have been a pilot/manager at both UPS and FEDEX. Odds are he is neither, but there is a worm-like odor from his posts that reeks of junior truck driving management.
In any case most of his statements are so inane they lend a sense of comic relief to any thread. Thanks for the laugh and the crude attempts at disinformation.

Don't worry about it. We will get through this just fine. Just need to stick together. You are at the best airline in the world and both you and your wife should be happy. FedEx mgmt knows it too. They will play hardball and so will we. Then we will get a contract and continue to march.

Thanks for the encouragment.
:)

Too many words have been wasted commenting about a NON-MEMBER's rantings, and he didn't even get the slogan correct.

:rolleyes:








- The truth only hurts if it should -

Obviously Bob has a well thought out article; no one seems to be arguing his facts. Let's see... Unions- weaker than ever, FDX- one of the only airlines still making money, ALPA- stuck in the past with little political capital left, Fuel Prices- through the roof, $500,000,000 pay raise- not brought to vote, union officers and NC- trip pull for years...How many of you were around when we pulled the plug on ALPA last time? When we stood shoulder to shoulder prepping for a strike with our familes that could end our careers? What happened then? Maybe we should start listening to people like Bob and ask ourselves if we are on the right path, or is there a better way...

Lavender's a Loon
 

You mean when we voted in the FPA? The "FedEx Friendly Union", that woud work with management instead of against them in "interest (the interest was purely on the companie's side) based bargaining? Yeah, that sure was a better way! Lavender is an egomaniac (I've read his stuff and listened to him) and his ideas have no basis in reality. I urge everybody to go to his web-site and read his stuff. http://www.pilotunity.com

Exactly go home and read your red letter again!

The NON-MEMBER has a long article, but it's not necessairly any better "thought out" than his decision to abandon the union in favor of his own selfish greed. You want an argument on the facts? OK, I'll give you several.

First, the author's observation skills are brought into question when he cannot accurately quote the slogan "Two Years is Too Long." Basing his article on a variant that he apparently fabricated himself does little to establish any credibility whatsoever on the subject. Making a "mathematical" argument against a slogan which he fabricated only makes him look foolish.

Second, who shares the sentiment is not relevant. Our future is not determined by the opinions of former Enron employees, Delta employees, NWA pilots, other FedEx employees, the American public, or citizens worldwide. Our future will be determined by US, working together through the process. If we stick to gether, we will be successful. If we all pick our individual issues and go our own way like Mr. NON-MEMBER Lavender, we will surely be defeated.

Third, deregulation and the A, B, and C scales have nothing to do with our present situation. We have issues that are current and pertinent, and they stand on their own.

Fourth, 1000 "airline-qualified" pilots on the street will do nothing to keep FedEx Express delivering on its "Absolutely, Positively Overnight" promise, or even on its more recent "Relax. It's FedEx." Once FedEx goes one single day without delivering on that promise, the public will be saying, "Forget it, they're just an overpriced Airborne." The threat of a strike is real, and it is effective.

Fifth, ALPA does not have to be a business in order to have a business relationship with FedEx. To state otherwise is to employ a simpleton's view of semantics. As long as FedEx desires to engage ALPA in a responsible, sincere way, we can accomplish much. IF you don't belive that, explain the process that just concluded whereby we negotiated and ratified a Letter of Agreement dramatically changing by improving the workrules regarding moves to Anchorage.

Sixth, whether one holds the Railway Labor Act to be our friend or our foe, that's the environment under which we operate. To think that we can simply agree to abandon the process in favor of some other that we might mutually agree upon is preposterous. We tried to engage FedEx management in negotiations facilitated by a professional negotiator, going above and beyond the mechanisms described by the RLA, and FedEx management walked away.

Now, I've REALLY wasted too many words discussing the ill-devised opinions of a NON-MEMBER. Happy now?



Why don't you describe the environment that existed when we "pulled the plug on ALPA" the last time. Tell us how we got to that positition, and tell us about the membership statistics. Tell us how that situation remotely compares with the unity that we enjoy today. I suggest that the only comparison is the name ALPA, and the existence of a few malcontents that just had to cry out above the crowd.


We are strong, we are unified, and we are right. You're either with us, or you're against us.

Two Years is Too Long!

- The truth only hurts if it should -