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b2pilot186 03-08-2009 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Avg Joe (Post 574898)
Wow!

I agree that predicting what the domestic/global economy might look like 3 YEARS into the future is murky, but the 6 different publications I read each week ALL AGREE the recession/depression only deepens over the next 3 MONTHS. Morgan Stanley this week is warning of a DEPRESSION significantly worse than the 1930's. Given the economic data and the 6-month lag any stimulus requires to become apparent (Econ 101), I am personally ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT in predicting our economic situation will look WORSE in 3 months! Call me an idiot if you wish.

Joe

If you throw in your towel now, you can beat the Christmas rush...

All I'm saying is that excessive pessimism and wild speculation won't help anyone...I read that in a publication so it must be true. The author might just have been trying to sell some sensationalized print though...You never know though...they got Y2K and global cooling (or was it warming?) right. :rolleyes:

B2P

PurpleTail 03-08-2009 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Avg Joe (Post 574898)
Wow!

I agree that predicting what the domestic/global economy might look like 3 YEARS into the future is murky, but the 6 different publications I read each week ALL AGREE the recession/depression only deepens over the next 3 MONTHS. Morgan Stanley this week is warning of a DEPRESSION significantly worse than the 1930's. Given the economic data and the 6-month lag any stimulus requires to become apparent (Econ 101), I am personally ABSOLUTELY CONFIDENT in predicting our economic situation will look WORSE in 3 months! Call me an idiot if you wish.

Joe

BINGO!

I don't like the news anymore than anyone else.....but I'm also being realistic as well.

B2pilot~ I'll send you a PM on June 1st on my prediction the Dow will be below 5,000. If I'm wrong (and I hope that I am) I'll flat out post that I was crazy. I'm reading the same thing Ave Joe is obviously reading though and it isn't good.

JRT123 03-08-2009 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Shaggy1970 (Post 574908)
How about we wait and see, that's all we can do! We can't control this mess! Avg Joe, your a bit to negative for my taste and Jungle maybe you should got back to photography cause I really like your pictures!

They're not negative; they are realists!

Avg Joe 03-08-2009 07:00 PM

b2... your attitude is curious. It's as if you think it's absolutely a crap shoot what the next 5 minutes of your life will hold. How do you prepare for the future and make informed decisions? I'm just speculating that you don't read much because, "It's all doom and gloom anyway!" As if to say, "If it's not GOOD news, then why bother reading it?" I'm sure you understand the shortsightedness of this philosophy.

But hey, if it's working for you then good luck with that! :D

Joe

b2pilot186 03-08-2009 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleTail (Post 574925)
BINGO!

I don't like the news anymore than anyone else.....but I'm also being realistic as well.

B2pilot~ I'll send you a PM on June 1st on my prediction the Dow will be below 5,000. If I'm wrong (and I hope that I am) I'll flat out post that I was crazy. I'm reading the same thing Ave Joe is obviously reading though and it isn't good.

I don't accept PM's but you can take a swing at me in public here on the board if it helps. I'm trying to lighten the black mood here with a little humor...obviously a poor and futile attempt on my part. I'm a realist myself...but there's always hope. Sometimes the unexpected happens very quickly...good and bad.

B2P

Roberto 03-08-2009 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Shaggy1970 (Post 574867)
1. On 1 Sep 09 We will have 75 folks on property that will be over 65!

2. On 1 Sep 11 we will have another 58 folks that will be over 65!

Shaggy,

I didn't get those numbers. I used the Feb 1st Seniority List from the Crew Reference link on the UPS web site and did an age sort. Could you recheck and let me know if your numbers are good. (I got 35 and 56 for a total of 91 for your dates.)

b2pilot186 03-08-2009 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Avg Joe (Post 574928)
b2... your attitude is curious. It's as if you think it's absolutely a crap shoot what the next 5 minutes of your life will hold. How do you prepare for the future and make informed decisions? I'm just speculating that you don't read much because, "It's all doom and gloom anyway!" As if to say, "If it's not GOOD news, then why bother reading it?" I'm sure you understand the shortsightedness of this philosophy.

But hey, if it's working for you then good luck with that! :D

Joe

No worries brother..if you feel you've got me pegged, who am I to argue. Enjoy your life, fly safe and I'll see you on the line.

B2P

Shaggy1970 03-08-2009 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Roberto (Post 574933)
Shaggy,

I didn't get those numbers. I used the Feb 1st Seniority List from the Crew Reference link on the UPS web site and did an age sort. Could you recheck and let me know if your numbers are good. (I got 35 and 56 for a total of 91 for your dates.)

Bob,
The numbers are good and are from the most current Seniority list! I am kinda an excel geek and I created a couple of different formulas to look into the future!

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE 03-08-2009 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Shaggy1970 (Post 574973)
... I am kinda an excel geek and I created a couple of different formulas to look into the future!

So, how much will UPS (and GOOG) stocks be worth in lets say 2015? (about time we'll be getting recalled) :confused:

Shaggy1970 03-08-2009 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 574976)
So, how much will UPS (and GOOG) stocks be worth in lets say 2015? (about time we'll be getting recalled) :confused:

I might be good at excel but I don't have a crystal ball, I wish I did! I did buy bunch of Citi group on Friday at .98 Cents! :D


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