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Old 01-08-2009, 12:21 PM
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--------M10S-M57F--L11F--M10F--M11F--M30F--A11F--S30F--M27F--H30F--M27S--Total
3980>----1------2-------16------18-------76------76-----138-----7------121------22------223----700
4679
4080>-----------1--------9-------13-------43------58-----125-----7------107------22------215----600
4679
4180>-----------1--------6-------9---------2-------40-----109-----7------100------21------205----500
4679
4280>-------------------------------------------------6------88------6-------81------19------200-----400
4679
4380>--------------------------------------------------------44-------1------51-------17------187----300
4679
4427>------------------------------------------------------------------1------51-------14------187----253
4679
4480>--------------------------------------------------------------------------41------10------149----200
4679
4580>---------------------------------------------------------------------------1-------9--------90-----100
4679

I included the row starting at #4427 because #4426 is the junior ANC MD11 crewmember.
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I have no agenda, this is just for information.

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:25 PM
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Well done....thanks.

While the Feb bidpacks will be enlightening, I believe the real clarity will come from the numbers on the next excess bid.
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There are 29 pilots on the 777 that are in junior to (or in) the 3980 where your calculation stops.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:53 PM
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So . . . If 400 guys get furloughed - that'll take 132 ANC F/Os and 77 HKG/SFS F/Os? I'm trying to think how many double-deadhead tickets the Company is going to need to buy to cover those MONTHLY losses. And, HKG isn't even fully manned now.

This is a bigger hoot than I thought. 31HZ - thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by nakazawa View Post
So . . . If 400 guys get furloughed - that'll take 132 ANC F/Os and 77 HKG/SFS F/Os? I'm trying to think how many double-deadhead tickets the Company is going to need to buy to cover those MONTHLY losses. And, HKG isn't even fully manned now.

This is a bigger hoot than I thought. 31HZ - thanks for the info.

....and 200 727 SOs.

Note: After the "pay only" guys were removed, there were only 225 guys left to bid/cover the 155 hard lines, 29 VTO, and 60 reserve lines in Jan.

I don't think they are replacing 757s with 727s that fast....going to need another big realingment bid, and execute all the subsequent training, to make deep cuts in the 727 crew force.
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So . . . If 400 guys get furloughed - that'll take 132 ANC F/Os and 77 HKG/SFS F/Os? I'm trying to think how many double-deadhead tickets the Company is going to need to buy to cover those MONTHLY losses. And, HKG isn't even fully manned now.

This is a bigger hoot than I thought. 31HZ - thanks for the info.

Not only would they be "unmanning" the new FDA and incurring the SIBA costs, they would incur "other" costs associated with furloughing from a foreign domicile.

CBA 6.E.2.b.ii "A pilot who is furloughed from an FDA, shall be eligible
for relocation package #2, excluding the relocation allowance described in Section 6.C.2., or 6.E.1.c., provided he relocates to his last pre-FDA residence or to MEM, at his option."

It is kind of ironic that the the FDA LOA and all the junior folks that took it may be the key to keep the bottom 400-700 dudes from getting furloughed.
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The far right column is the total number of crewmembers junior to the seniority number that's listed in the far left column. So, for the bottom 400, the breakdown would read straight across the row.

200 M27S
19 H30F
81 M27F
6 S30F
88 A11F
6 M30F
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400 Total
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There is no way they can furlough!
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Originally Posted by 31Hz View Post
SEN#
--------M10S-M57F--L11F--M10F--M11F-M30F-A11F--S30F--M27F--H30F--M27S-Total
3980>----1------2-------16------18-------76------76-----138-----7------121------22------223----700
4679
4080>-----------1--------9-------13-------43------58-----125-----7------107------22------215----600
4679
4180>-----------1--------6-------9---------2-------40-----109-----7------100------21------205----500
4679
4280>-------------------------------------------------6------88------6-------81------19------200-----400
4679
4380>--------------------------------------------------------44-------1------51-------17------187----300
4679
4427>------------------------------------------------------------------1------51-------14------187----253
4679
4480>--------------------------------------------------------------------------41------10------149----200
4679
4580>---------------------------------------------------------------------------1-------9--------90-----100
4679

I included the row starting at #4427 because #4426 is the junior ANC MD11 crewmember.
Disclaimers:
This is straight from the 30Jun08 Master Seniority List
It does not include any crewmembers on Training Letters
It does not include new hires
It does not include the 777 awards
I have no agenda, this is just for information.
Read and add the rows for the totals. Don't look at the columns except to determine Domicile, Equipment, and Seat.
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Originally Posted by nakazawa View Post
So . . . If 400 guys get furloughed - that'll take 132 ANC F/Os and 77 HKG/SFS F/Os? I'm trying to think how many double-deadhead tickets the Company is going to need to buy to cover those MONTHLY losses. And, HKG isn't even fully manned now.

This is a bigger hoot than I thought. 31HZ - thanks for the info.

Not even close. There aren't even that many HKG/SFS F/O's total.

31hz explained it above.

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