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Knots2you 03-19-2009 02:06 AM

I would say that it is even more important for a cargo pilot to be armed, for reasons that are obvious to any cargo pilot.

FreightDawgyDog 03-19-2009 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 580799)
Why would a cargo pilot want to be an FFDO? Yeah yeah, I know....jumpseaters, couriers etc. However, they're a very minimal risk. I believe the answer is that they like the badge and gun and it is not for any noble reasons.

Seriously? You know what I believe? It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Archie Bunker 03-19-2009 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 580799)
Why would a cargo pilot want to be an FFDO? Yeah yeah, I know....jumpseaters, couriers etc. However, they're a very minimal risk. I believe the answer is that they like the badge and gun and it is not for any noble reasons.

Yeah, you're right Zapata...a gun and a badge is the only reason that I sacrificed my time and money to jump through all the hoops that it took to become an FFDO. The chicks really dig the badge, and I get free dinner and drinks all across the country. It really doesn't have anything to do with increasing the level of security where I work...nah. Dang, there's no fooling you...I'm such a fraud!

I mean, you're right...it would be impossible for someone to stowaway onboard a cargo aircraft, and then attack the crew inflight. It could never happen.

Oh yeah...and a jumpseater would never turn into a psychopath (FedEx 705), and attack the crew with the intention of crashing the plane into corporate headquarters. It could never happen. Well, I guess it only happened just that one time...no biggie though.

I've got a great idea. Why don't we put you in charge of the TSA? You've already got it all figured out...which pilots have noble reasons for becoming a FFDO, and which ones are in it only for the badges, guns, free meals, and chicks (like myself). With your expertise at the helm of this fine organization, I'm sure you will transform it into a lean, mean iron clad wall of security for the traveling public, while ridding the ranks of all us cargo pilot slackers.

Many thanks for pointing this out to the masses here at APC

767pilot 03-19-2009 03:21 AM

I want it because some of the guys in the right seat have guns. If they go berserk, I want to be able to shoot back!

FDXLAG 03-19-2009 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 580797)
Pure knee-jerk reaction paranoia.


So give me one (logical) reason why you would restrict the sale of used brass to non munitions use?

767pilot 03-19-2009 04:23 AM

never mind

MX727 03-19-2009 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 580810)
So give me one (logical) reason why you would restrict the sale of used brass to non munitions use?

It's not restricted for .50 and under unless the brass is to be exported. The problem started when a middle level shoe clerk misinterpreted the DRMO regulation and notified buyers that they no longer would be able to buy brass that had not been crushed. He was wrong. Brass is back in the pipeline.

767pilot 03-19-2009 05:16 AM

the conspiracy to get rid of guns sounds a whole lot cooler

FDXLAG 03-19-2009 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 580831)
the conspiracy to get rid of guns sounds a whole lot cooler


Because it is utterly preposterous to think that Nancy wants to get rid of guns?

JetPiedmont 03-19-2009 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 580807)
I want it because some of the guys in the right seat have guns. If they go berserk, I want to be able to shoot back!

Are you that difficult to fly with?:D


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