A well thought out update. I hope we can parlay this into some strong unity. My NC speaks for me.

A very well written, cogent argument. Thanks for keeping us in the loop JG!

We are all behind you 100%.

That's what I thought....I just didn't see the "with or without you" in either of yours....that's why I was puzzled.

oh, well - thanks for the reply anyway.

P.S. I thought this was an EXCELLENT update as well - sounds like there might be hope for our union/neg. committee after BC's legacy after all......maybe.

Finally. Enough of the nonsense. What personally galls me is continuously being lied to and treated like the village idiot. Besides, I've always liked a good, running gunfight.

I now think that I know why DW bid the 777. Can anyone say "insider information?"

Thank you to John and the NC. Excellent update.

Finally!... thank you John, thank you NC. I wish we had taken this kind of stand starting with FDA LOA#1.

And I can't say enough about how much I appreciate the level of comm from John and the NC. Great job, keep it up.

Excellent response...

.. and an excellent avatar...

I've told my wife to quit posing for those things over and over... she never listens!

I am sure JG appreciated his MEC Chairman's support during what must have been very tough negotiations. What kind of message did the company get when DW bid the 777 knowing his NC was still trying to use those work rules and compensation as part of a whole series of issues that need to be seriously addressed? If your own MEC Chairman won't back you up with his actions why should the company think anything we have to say should be taken seriously? Though I appreciate all the hard work JG and crew have done, DW's actions, IMHO, cut their legs out from under them before they even had a chance to negotiate anything. Is this the kind of leadership they teach at the many ALPA seminars we pay for? I think I will be writing John Prather and ALPA national and ask what they think about an MEC Chair that sends out messages warning about bidding new aircraft without pay rates, then bids it himself while his NC is trying to secure that very thing. I will also mention the negotiations failed even though our NC did their best. I encourage everyone else to do the same.

I certainly like the all or nothing approach. I rate a 777 pay raise about number 47 on my list of thing to improve on the next contract. Right below pillows for all of the lounge chairs.