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FDX-Decision Time
2 weeks until the MEC officer elections. Do you know who your block rep supports? Have you emailed, called, talked with your block rep with your preferences? Have you demanded that they, as your elected representative, support the majority block opinion and make their choice publicly known?
Chairman: DM or SS? Vice-Chairman: TH, TM, WR, or DS? Sec-Treas: DC, JK, SM? The vast majority of the crewforce thinks the choices are clear. Does your block rep? There should be a minimum of 4600 communications sent to the block reps in the next 10 days. Don't let backroom deals buy this election. CONTACT YOUR BLOCK REP TODAY! |
Originally Posted by Buckwheat Jones
(Post 592305)
2 weeks until the MEC officer elections. Do you know who your block rep supports? Have you emailed, called, talked with your block rep with your preferences? Have you demanded that they, as your elected representative, support the majority block opinion and make their choice publicly known?
Chairman: DM or SS? Vice-Chairman: TH, TM, WR, or DS? Sec-Treas: DC, JK, SM? The vast majority of the crewforce thinks the choices are clear. Does your block rep? There should be a minimum of 4600 communications sent to the block reps in the next 10 days. Don't let backroom deals buy this election. CONTACT YOUR BLOCK REP TODAY! AGAIN....!!! |
[quote=Buckwheat Jones;592305]2 weeks until the MEC officer elections. Do you know who your block rep supports? Have you emailed, called, talked with your block rep with your preferences? Have you demanded that they, as your elected representative, support the majority block opinion and make their choice publicly known?
Chairman: DM or SS? Vice-Chairman: TH, TM, WR, or DS? Sec-Treas: DC, JK, SM? The vast majority of the crewforce thinks the choices are clear. Does your block rep? There should be a minimum of 4600 communications sent to the block reps in the next 10 days. Don't let backroom deals buy this election. And for those lurkers out there who don't know who the vast majority is supporting, I'll help them out: Chairman: SS Vice chairman: TM Sec-Treas: DC The excrement has hit the circular wind machine and it's time for smart, effective leadership. We can't be satisfied with the 'experienced status quo'. |
If that is the case Enos, then why are we only picking guys from MEM and not any of the other bases? Its time to not only get new leadership but maybe someone who has never been in the MEC before!
As for me, anyone but DM! |
minority view?
SS, DS and JK
fbh |
Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
(Post 592581)
SS, DS and JK
fbh |
In case you fellas hadn't noticed, and before you start beating that "Reps from other domociles drum", let me point out that the sudden glut of new candidates relatively late in the campaign smells of an attempt to "dilute the vote", giving the incumbents a better chance of garnering enough votes to win. If the split is 1 vote either way, another domocile voting for it's candidate could well tip the scale if it is as tight as it seems. Carefully consider what you do here.:cool::mad:
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
(Post 592626)
In case you fellas hadn't noticed, and before you start beating that "Reps from other domociles drum", let me point out that the sudden glut of new candidates relatively late in the campaign smells of an attempt to "dilute the vote", giving the incumbents a better chance of garnering enough votes to win. If the split is 1 vote either way, another domocile voting for it's candidate could well tip the scale if it is as tight as it seems. Carefully consider what you do here.:cool::mad:
You nailed it Florida Captain. "If it smells like an attempt to dilute the vote, looks like an attempt to dilute the vote, it probably is an attempt to dilute the vote". |
Originally Posted by Enos Retires
(Post 592723)
You nailed it Florida Captain. "If it smells like an attempt to dilute the vote, looks like an attempt to dilute the vote, it probably is an attempt to dilute the vote".
I'm thinking that would have to be some pretty runny sh** to vote for the same performance we've had in the past. But I'm a pretty deep thinker... :o |
Originally Posted by jagplt
(Post 592759)
I'm thinking to myself... I say "self... how diluted would it have to be to get an incumbent elected..."
I'm thinking that would have to be some pretty runny sh** to vote for the same performance we've had in the past. But I'm a pretty deep thinker... :o |
Enos,
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO Noser |
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Originally Posted by Buckwheat Jones
(Post 592305)
2 weeks until the MEC officer elections. Do you know who your block rep supports? Have you emailed, called, talked with your block rep with your preferences? Have you demanded that they, as your elected representative, support the majority block opinion and make their choice publicly known?
Chairman: DM or SS? Vice-Chairman: TH, TM, WR, or DS? Sec-Treas: DC, JK, SM? The vast majority of the crewforce thinks the choices are clear. Does your block rep? There should be a minimum of 4600 communications sent to the block reps in the next 10 days. Don't let backroom deals buy this election. And for those lurkers out there who don't know who the vast majority is supporting, I'll help them out: Chairman: SS Vice chairman: TM Sec-Treas: DC The excrement has hit the circular wind machine and it's time for smart, effective leadership. We can't be satisfied with the 'experienced status quo'. |
Originally Posted by noser
(Post 592786)
Enos,
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO Noser Where is his campaign letter of introduction to the crewforce or MEC? If "when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done than a a Bus driver out of MEM", how did your block rep vote or campaign for the FDA LOA? Were all dissenting 32% votes from ANC? How did DS vote? Was he vocal in his opposition to the FDA LOA? Who does your block rep support for Chairman? Vice-Chairman? Sec-Treas? |
Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
(Post 592626)
In case you fellas hadn't noticed, and before you start beating that "Reps from other domociles drum", let me point out that the sudden glut of new candidates relatively late in the campaign smells of an attempt to "dilute the vote", giving the incumbents a better chance of garnering enough votes to win. If the split is 1 vote either way, another domocile voting for it's candidate could well tip the scale if it is as tight as it seems. Carefully consider what you do here.:cool::mad:
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Originally Posted by noser
(Post 592786)
Enos,
I know DS and he is not trying to "Dilute the Vote". He is running because he feels that it is time for a change. I know that most of the crew force works out of MEM but when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done then a a Bus driver out of MEM. To be fair, the Bus driver understands MEM hub turns better that an ANC guy will even know. I just think with all the problems that we have right now with the FDA we need someone from another base. IMHO Noser |
Originally Posted by Buckwheat Jones
(Post 592815)
Okay, if DS is so concerned about ANC guys getting their proper representation, or if ANC guys feel disrespected or underrepresented by their elected officials, WHY did it take almost two months for DS to declare his candidacy? Does DS feel TM doesn't represent change from the DW/DM/WR cabal?
Where is his campaign letter of introduction to the crewforce or MEC? If "when it comes to FDA and int. dealings, ANC crews have seen more of what can and can't be done than a a Bus driver out of MEM", how did your block rep vote or campaign for the FDA LOA? Were all dissenting 32% votes from ANC? How did DS vote? Was he vocal in his opposition to the FDA LOA? Who does your block rep support for Chairman? Vice-Chairman? Sec-Treas? |
Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
(Post 592817)
You are completely wrong in the case of DS. He had to wait and see what his lot in life was going to be with the excess bid before he could pull the trigger. DS is by far the most qualified candidate for Vice Chairman and it is a God send that he has thrown his hat into the ring. You need to "carefully consider what you write here" about people.
Sounds like the ANC mafia simply wants "our guy" and it only matters that he is ANC based. |
Originally Posted by Buckwheat Jones
(Post 592847)
First, I'll say I like DS however, I don't think he is the right person at this critical junction for VC. I would challenge your statement that he "had to wait and see what his lot in life was going to be with the excess bid before he could pull the trigger". DS is 152 seniority numbers ahead of the junior ANC Captain. Did he really think he would be displaced? Is he only a viable candidate if he is based in ANC? Would he serve the crewforce differently if he was based elsewhere? I'd like to know, but DS has not put out anything publicly regarding his candidacy.
Sounds like the ANC mafia simply wants "our guy" and it only matters that he is ANC based. |
ANC Mafia
I Like it!
fbh |
Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
(Post 592836)
Noser, I'm not sure if you were referring to me as the bus driver, but the point that I was making is that unfortunately there is a vast amjority of mushroom or ostrich types in memphis that that have no idea of the day to day happenings within our union, never read anything from the union, and truly believe that the current leaders in the union are doing a fine job. You don't run into them in ANC or the Pacific, but they are a large number. They are the lemmings that I was referring to in my previous post. It is naive to think that everyone feels the same way that we do, or even has any knowledge of what has been going on during the past few years. I fly with and talk to guys all of the time who didn't even know that there was an LOA, much less what it smelled like. I have talked to bus guys who thought that the HKG domicile was a 757 domicile. I even ran into one guy at the grocery store in memphis last summer during the failed vacancy bid, who when I asked him how he was affected during the practice bid that came out the day prior, his answer was, What Excess bid? Just saying, it is no slam dunk.
This was not directed at you but to the guys that never fly outside of the US telling us who do how to set up a FDA. I have read your posts and have likes most if not all you have written. As for the "Lemmings", I totally agree, I even told an FO that the LOA would pass because there are guys in MEM who will vote for it because it will "not effect them." In the end I was sadly right. As for our LEC voting for it, they are taking much heat for us for that and the age 60 rule, however, I think that they are listen now and will not do something like that again (I hope). Again Driver, this was not directed towards you. BJ, thanks for correcting my english, what can I say, I was a math major. :) Noser |
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Originally Posted by Enos Retires
(Post 592568)
I don't know what vast majority you are with but I think DS is by far the best choice for Vice Chairman. Ok Fr8, If you want to see a "vast majority" go to the poll's (unofficial) listed here. Also, I know and like DS very much and would never espouse that he is directly trying to dilute anything and never singled him out in previous posts. I will not however underestimate the lengths to which the current regime will go to perpetuate itself. When faced with an impending election failure,a few well placed encouragements and nudges in the right places can do wonders. Lastly I want the MEC to vote their concience, and be informed. So far all you have said is "He is by far the best candidate".....ok, how?. Share with us some of your intimate knowlege of his qualifications and positions on the issues, so we too can be informed. :confused: |
Dilute the election? You've got to be kidding me. Apparently you guys have no idea how this thing works. What, do you think they vote in a vacuum?
Have you ever watched "Survivor"? It's much more like that. Alliances within the MEC will elect our leaders. It's not as if a candidate is going to end up with 1 vote. Nobody on the MEC is going to waste their vote. Unless the outcome has already been decided. I'm sorry that I had to tell you guys that the voting takes place around a campfire, with 2 different tribes. And, candidate's torches get put out, when they lose. Just hope that your favorite candidate has the immunity idol. |
[QUOTE=FLMD11CAPT;592956]
Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
(Post 592811)
"You are completely wrong in the case of DS. He had to wait and see what his lot in life was going to be with the excess bid before he could pull the trigger. DS is by far the most qualified candidate for Vice Chairman and it is a God send that he has thrown his hat into the ring. You need to "carefully consider what you write here" about people."
Ok Fr8, If you want to see a "vast majority" go to the poll's (unofficial) listed here. Also, I know and like DS very much and would never espouse that he is directly trying to dilute anything and never singled him out in previous posts. I will not however underestimate the lengths to which the current regime will go to perpetuate itself. When faced with an impending election failure,a few well placed encouragements and nudges in the right places can do wonders. Lastly I want the MEC to vote their concience, and be informed. So far all you have said is "He is by far the best candidate".....ok, how?. Share with us some of your intimate knowlege of his qualifications and positions on the issues, so we too can be informed. :confused: |
OK FOLKS -
I'm DS, and I'll figure out how to get a letter posted on the ALPA website! For what it's worth - the MEC and LEC Reps have received my letter of intent, my resume, and a supplemental letter with some amplifying information. Here is a short list until more can be posted. I started my ALPA work when LA opened as the only line builder and pairing reviewer for the domicile in 2001. I bid to LA - stayed there about 6 months because the flying was SO bad - and bid back to ANC. I've essentially been in ANC since 1999. I two-leg commute to ANC, so I can address any jump seat or deadhead issue you'd like. I've requested and received two FAA interpretations on FAR issues, including our multi-leg RFO flying, and domestic to international with an RFO that the FAA addressed in their interpretation 1979-40. In both cases responses were delayed, but in the first I received a definition - not an interpretation. In the second, the sequence type in question never re-occurred. ANC is our most efficient domicile, based on credit hour value per day. A significant number of our trips are hard time - or near hard time flying. Unfortunately, this has resulted in a sick rate of approximately 25% - where the crew force average is about 4%. Management's system is broken! I was foreign deployed and embarked in USS Midway - lived in Japan on the economy with my wife. I can bore you with issues foreigners face when living abroad, from car insurance availability to infrastructure support for crew members. I presented many concerns to my LEC, but as you know, what the MEC thought at the time was a good plan has turned out to be woefully inadequate. I have addressed issues regarding the transition from Supplemental Ops to FLAG Ops, researched ETOPS, and the impact of operating the B-777 domestically, then internationally - with the crew being limited to 30 in 7, rather than 32 in 7. I've scoured the RLA and, with reference to 4.A.2.b, looked at RLA Para 156 and how that impacts our reserves. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think the reserves are being paid scale wages with the enactment of 4.A.2.b. My undergraduate degree is in Accounting, and I earned a graduate degree in Management and Personnel Administration. I'm retired from the US Armed Forces, a Viet Nam Veteran with over 300 combat helicopter missions, and I've looked down the barrel of adversity worse than what's going on here. Right now we have people making three dimensional decisions from a one dimensional screen. It's time for a change. I expect to be in MEM three weeks a month - you can expect to see me in the AOC at least once a week. I think AFB flying is a great way to get out to the other domiciles. I plan to be visible, responsive, and receptive to YOUR inputs. The delay. I'm a line pilot. I've got about 6,000 hours in the MD-11. Deciding to step away from the comfort zone is a HUGE decision - a life decision - a family decision. Figuring out crash-pads, getting another car, are all part of the equation. We've decided that taking two years to make the FedEx Express crew force lives better is an honorable endeavor. I am, Nakazawa David M. Shinn ANC MD-11 Captain |
I'd vote for ya.
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Very nice post Dave, you seems very well qualified to me. I hope all who read think so as well. In addition it's nice to see you get some "distance" from the field of candidates. Best of luck in the election.:);)
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P.S. I also hope now all who read here will research and read all of your well thought out and cogent previous posts on all the important issues you have addressed on this forum.:)
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Originally Posted by nakazawa
(Post 592995)
OK FOLKS -
I'm DS, and I'll figure out how to get a letter posted on the ALPA website! For what it's worth - the MEC and LEC Reps have received my letter of intent, my resume, and a supplemental letter with some amplifying information. Here is a short list until more can be posted. I started my ALPA work when LA opened as the only line builder and pairing reviewer for the domicile in 2001. I bid to LA - stayed there about 6 months because the flying was SO bad - and bid back to ANC. I've essentially been in ANC since 1999. I two-leg commute to ANC, so I can address any jump seat or deadhead issue you'd like. I've requested and received two FAA interpretations on FAR issues, including our multi-leg RFO flying, and domestic to international with an RFO that the FAA addressed in their interpretation 1979-40. In both cases responses were delayed, but in the first I received a definition - not an interpretation. In the second, the sequence type in question never re-occurred. ANC is our most efficient domicile, based on credit hour value per day. A significant number of our trips are hard time - or near hard time flying. Unfortunately, this has resulted in a sick rate of approximately 25% - where the crew force average is about 4%. Management's system is broken! I was foreign deployed and embarked in USS Midway - lived in Japan on the economy with my wife. I can bore you with issues foreigners face when living abroad, from car insurance availability to infrastructure support for crew members. I presented many concerns to my LEC, but as you know, what the MEC thought at the time was a good plan has turned out to be woefully inadequate. I have addressed issues regarding the transition from Supplemental Ops to FLAG Ops, researched ETOPS, and the impact of operating the B-777 domestically, then internationally - with the crew being limited to 30 in 7, rather than 32 in 7. I've scoured the RLA and, with reference to 4.A.2.b, looked at RLA Para 156 and how that impacts our reserves. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think the reserves are being paid scale wages with the enactment of 4.A.2.b. My undergraduate degree is in Accounting, and I earned a graduate degree in Management and Personnel Administration. I'm retired from the US Armed Forces, a Viet Nam Veteran with over 300 combat helicopter missions, and I've looked down the barrel of adversity worse than what's going on here. Right now we have people making three dimensional decisions from a one dimensional screen. It's time for a change. I expect to be in MEM three weeks a month - you can expect to see me in the AOC at least once a week. I think AFB flying is a great way to get out to the other domiciles. I plan to be visible, responsive, and receptive to YOUR inputs. The delay. I'm a line pilot. I've got about 6,000 hours in the MD-11. Deciding to step away from the comfort zone is a HUGE decision - a life decision - a family decision. Figuring out crash-pads, getting another car, are all part of the equation. We've decided that taking two years to make the FedEx Express crew force lives better is an honorable endeavor. I am, Nakazawa David M. Shinn ANC MD-11 Captain I'm in. |
Dave,
You know how I feel and have made sure that the LEC knows how I feel as well about all 3 positions. Manly, No to DM!!! |
Thank you David! Taking a beating for you. You rock, good luck.
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Originally Posted by nakazawa
(Post 592995)
OK FOLKS -
I'm DS, and I'll figure out how to get a letter posted on the ALPA website! For what it's worth - the MEC and LEC Reps have received my letter of intent, my resume, and a supplemental letter with some amplifying information. Here is a short list until more can be posted. I started my ALPA work when LA opened as the only line builder and pairing reviewer for the domicile in 2001. I bid to LA - stayed there about 6 months because the flying was SO bad - and bid back to ANC. I've essentially been in ANC since 1999. I two-leg commute to ANC, so I can address any jump seat or deadhead issue you'd like. I've requested and received two FAA interpretations on FAR issues, including our multi-leg RFO flying, and domestic to international with an RFO that the FAA addressed in their interpretation 1979-40. In both cases responses were delayed, but in the first I received a definition - not an interpretation. In the second, the sequence type in question never re-occurred. ANC is our most efficient domicile, based on credit hour value per day. A significant number of our trips are hard time - or near hard time flying. Unfortunately, this has resulted in a sick rate of approximately 25% - where the crew force average is about 4%. Management's system is broken! I was foreign deployed and embarked in USS Midway - lived in Japan on the economy with my wife. I can bore you with issues foreigners face when living abroad, from car insurance availability to infrastructure support for crew members. I presented many concerns to my LEC, but as you know, what the MEC thought at the time was a good plan has turned out to be woefully inadequate. I have addressed issues regarding the transition from Supplemental Ops to FLAG Ops, researched ETOPS, and the impact of operating the B-777 domestically, then internationally - with the crew being limited to 30 in 7, rather than 32 in 7. I've scoured the RLA and, with reference to 4.A.2.b, looked at RLA Para 156 and how that impacts our reserves. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think the reserves are being paid scale wages with the enactment of 4.A.2.b. My undergraduate degree is in Accounting, and I earned a graduate degree in Management and Personnel Administration. I'm retired from the US Armed Forces, a Viet Nam Veteran with over 300 combat helicopter missions, and I've looked down the barrel of adversity worse than what's going on here. Right now we have people making three dimensional decisions from a one dimensional screen. It's time for a change. I expect to be in MEM three weeks a month - you can expect to see me in the AOC at least once a week. I think AFB flying is a great way to get out to the other domiciles. I plan to be visible, responsive, and receptive to YOUR inputs. The delay. I'm a line pilot. I've got about 6,000 hours in the MD-11. Deciding to step away from the comfort zone is a HUGE decision - a life decision - a family decision. Figuring out crash-pads, getting another car, are all part of the equation. We've decided that taking two years to make the FedEx Express crew force lives better is an honorable endeavor. I am, Nakazawa David M. Shinn ANC MD-11 Captain Dave Email me if you need a crash pad in memphis. I have a spot ready to go. " Biff " [email protected] |
Maybe there is some guys from MEM in the ANC Mafia. ;)
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Originally Posted by Busboy
(Post 592974)
Dilute the election? You've got to be kidding me. Apparently you guys have no idea how this thing works. What, do you think they vote in a vacuum?
Have you ever watched "Survivor"? It's much more like that. Alliances within the MEC will elect our leaders. It's not as if a candidate is going to end up with 1 vote. Nobody on the MEC is going to waste their vote. Unless the outcome has already been decided. I'm sorry that I had to tell you guys that the voting takes place around a campfire, with 2 different tribes. And, candidate's torches get put out, when they lose. Just hope that your favorite candidate has the immunity idol. |
Nakazawa, nice post! Thanks for throwing your hat in the ring. You have the support of this MEM commuter!
JD |
Great Post!
Thank you Naka-san, regardless of the outcome, you will never pay for anything when we're together. Good luck and I hope you make it.
fbh a.k.a. cecchi |
Ok, now that we know DS is not trying to "dillute the chances of others" get onboard and write your LEC's in favor of him. DS is a very intelligent, savy, experienced and motivated candidate. And yes, I do think he is by far the most qualified.
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
(Post 593004)
Very nice post Dave, you seems very well qualified to me. I hope all who read think so as well. In addition it's nice to see you get some "distance" from the field of candidates. Best of luck in the election.:);)
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Originally Posted by nakazawa
(Post 592995)
OK FOLKS -
I'm DS, I KNEW IT! :) At least now, after the fact!;) I emailed my rep when you first announced that you were my preference for VP, changing from an earlier preference! Good on ya for stepping up! |
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
(Post 593687)
I KNEW IT! :) At least now, after the fact!;)
I emailed my rep when you first announced that you were my preference for VP, changing from an earlier preference! Good on ya for stepping up! aka Mac |
I sent an email to all 12 block reps and got back some timely replies. Very encouraging to have them respond so quickly, whether they heed my thoughts or not.
Thanks for your efforts guys. Anybody out there who hasn't sent an email or called your block rep yet please take a moment to do so. FJ |
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