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Old 05-23-2009, 02:55 AM
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This has been a valuable discussion.

As usual.
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Old 05-23-2009, 03:25 AM
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[QUOTE]I cannot believe the number of Union FedEx Pilots defending the actions their company to prevent workers (drivers/owners/whatever) from unionizing!!!! /QUOTE]
I don't think many here are against our EXPRESS drivers organizing. They just need to do it under the RLA since we are an airline. Few want Teamster locals on property though. Our mechs have been trying, as they should, however, the aforementioned won't allow them in unless the plane washers, lav emptiers, etc.. are included in the group. Hardly the same skill set. At least that's how it was explained to me by a salty ole' mech in OAK. The mechs are in it for a career as we are. I don't want the company held hostage by a group that doesn't intend to stay around for a career.
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I cannot believe the number of Union FedEx Pilots defending the actions their company to prevent workers (drivers/owners/whatever) from unionizing!!!!
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I can't believe the number of Americans on here defending their governments action in removing property rights from individuals.

When the pollster calls and says do you identify more as a resident of your city/state/country do you start singing the internationale?

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Old 05-23-2009, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
As for job losses - The turnover in FedEx Ground drivers is already pretty high. Enough so, that normal attrition will quickly shrink the workforce to whatever size it needs to be.
I'm not saying you're wrong but as you know, anyone can throw out something on the internet and call it a fact. Can you support this assertion re: turnover of FedEx Ground drivers, or did you just pull it out of your.....um....hat?
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I'm not saying you're wrong but as you know, anyone can throw out something on the internet and call it a fact. Can you support this assertion re: turnover of FedEx Ground drivers, or did you just pull it out of your.....um....hat?
Neither...got it from a ground driver. I asked him why I'd had the same UPS guy for as long as I could remember, but never seemed to get the same FedEx guy twice. He gave me some perspective on how FedEx runs that end of the business, and it didn't sound too good. The hours are long and subject to change, the pay is a fraction of what their counterparts at UPS earn (about $14-/hr vs. $22), benefits are sketchy, and there is no security to speak of. Drivers jobs are always at the mercy of their boss, who can lose a service contract over issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with the driver. When that happens, the new contractor is under NO obligation to use the old drivers. It's a sucky deal.

If you want to get to the real truth to this matter, don't take my word for it, do your own research. Look in your local paper for "delivery driver" jobs...many are related to FedEx in some way. Apply for a job. You can be hired directly into a FedEx driver position, which is almost impossible at UPS. Ask your local drivers (both FedEx and UPS) how long they've each been with their respective companies. There's a lot of pride and longevity in the UPS workforce. Finding a FedEx Ground driver who will speak candidly with you is not always easy. Finding one who expects to retire from whatever cockamie "independent contractor" he works for is virtually impossible.

I still think FedEx would be a pretty good company for which to work. But FedEx Ground is not FedEx, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
Neither...got it from a ground driver. I asked him why I'd had the same UPS guy for as long as I could remember, but never seemed to get the same FedEx guy twice. He gave me some perspective on how FedEx runs that end of the business, and it didn't sound too good. The hours are long and subject to change, the pay is a fraction of what their counterparts at UPS earn (about $14-/hr vs. $22), benefits are sketchy, and there is no security to speak of. Drivers jobs are always at the mercy of their boss, who can lose a service contract over issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with the driver. When that happens, the new contractor is under NO obligation to use the old drivers. It's a sucky deal.

If you want to get to the real truth to this matter, don't take my word for it, do your own research. Look in your local paper for "delivery driver" jobs...many are related to FedEx in some way. Apply for a job. You can be hired directly into a FedEx driver position, which is almost impossible at UPS. Ask your local drivers (both FedEx and UPS) how long they've each been with their respective companies. There's a lot of pride and longevity in the UPS workforce. Finding a FedEx Ground driver who will speak candidly with you is not always easy. Finding one who expects to retire from whatever cockamie "independent contractor" he works for is virtually impossible.

I still think FedEx would be a pretty good company for which to work. But FedEx Ground is not FedEx, IMHO.
I guess it's all perspective. I spoke with the owner my route. He loves it! He owns 3 routes. Employs 3 drivers, covers their routes for sick and vacation. Couldn't be happier.
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Originally Posted by USNFDX
I guess it's all perspective. I spoke with the owner my route. He loves it! He owns 3 routes. Employs 3 drivers, covers their routes for sick and vacation. Couldn't be happier.
I spoke to my driver in Seattle. She has been doing it for 14 years and loves it.
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Originally Posted by Auger In
I spoke to my driver in Seattle. She has been doing it for 14 years and loves it.

I've had the same FedEx (Express) delivery driver the 14 years I've lived in this house. Nice lady ...
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Just rode home on the semi with a guy who's a 21 year employee and loves the company. One of the few places a guy can make a decent living and feed a family anymore without a college degree. Wish there were more solid middle class jobs left in this country...
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