kronan

I agree with Adler. And, it should be obvious given my prior posts that it's my goal to spend more than by bank every month.

As a commuter, I do try and maximize my opportunities for limos to the airport so I just don't accept Globaltravel's fare quote. In other words, I'm willing to take the time to look at specific airlines websites to see if I can get a better deal than Global travels offer.

In this situation, took a look at the one way ticket prices exactly one week later and was easily able to stay w/in the travel bank, purchasing cheaper tickets using the company card is explicitly allowed. Would that have held true a week ago when RT jumped the first leg of his connection back to the planet-who knows.
Yes, they are non-refundable tickets. But, if the company revises the pairing to operate back to the planet you keep the bank and get disruption pay to boot.

And, just personally, if I'm within the deviation foot print of a pairing-the only airline I jumpseat on is FedEx.

R1200RT

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Look friend, I’m not a “non-commuter” and I’ve got plenty of time commuting on lots of airlines – and not just to planet Memphis for Uncle Fred. Perhaps that’s why I don’t see this exactly the same way as some of you who might have been lucky enough to have Fedex be your first and only major airline job you chose to commute to. You’re showing your parochial, Fedex-ified attitude with the “once a person decides to deviate……. At that instant” statement. Frankly, no one from American, United, Delta, etc. is going to understand that “Fedex speak” or give a rat’s @ss about it.

Just so you know I worked the ramp, ticket counter, and gate for one of the major airlines you mention (84' to 91") they paid for my college and my flight training. Then I flew for a passenger airline (91 to 95) before coming to FedEx back when most did not. Management at all the airlines negotiated the jumpseat rules with ALPA and they knew exactly what they were getting into. Like a poster said it's a professional courtesy and is owned by the Captain. You guys are projecting yourselves into the heads of the accountants at every airline. Be a pilot and enjoy one of the last benefits we all have.

It is time for this thread to die. I'm not wrong and you guys giving extra monies to the ailing airlines is OK too..

AerisArmis

Finally something we can all agree on. RIP thread!

FDXLAG

OK before we close the thread, I want to get it straight. Written ALPA policy is more of a guideline. Kind of like the Pirate Code. And because some of us feel it should be stricter (especially the enlightened multi-airline pilots), all of us should refrain from jumpseating on a flight for some arbitrary length of time. Ignore any written guidance, WOM is controlling.

Adlerdriver

Written ALPA policy says you shouldn't jumpseat on a flight you have a ticket for. No one’s ignoring that and it’s not WOM. I guess some are choosing to look at that policy as a stand alone policy that the jumpseat committee pulled out of their --- for no good reason. Others actually understand the policy motive which is to avoid lost revenue to the airline due to misuse of the jumpseat. When you understand the intent of policy it’s a little easier to choose actions that will most likely comply.

I think if this discussion were to continue in a worth while manner, we’d need to see a copy of the actual reciprocal jumpseat agreements we hold with the various passenger carriers. I’ve never seen one. I have just been using stories and knowledge accrued over the years (yeah I guess some WOM) and what’s written from ALPA to comply with the spirit of the rules as I understand them. Perhaps our jumpseat guidance needs a little book icon and an “intent” statement to clarify like in the online contract.
Cheers.

Gunter

I'd recommend sitting in a newhire jumpseat briefing, but we aren't conducting those right now. Company policy is important. Intent is also applicable.

The next best thing is to contact the JS committee chair. The nuances you fail to recognize will probably be part of the conversation.

FDXLAG

Had you spent more time in the service of your country instead of chasing the dime at other airlines you would understand the context of WOM in my post. WOM is something that is in excess of written guidance. As it applies here your WOM is supposed to influence when I use a Jumpseat. I will stick with written ALPA and company guidance. I will also use guidance from the other airlines when they chose to supply it to me. I will not add something extra to the ALPA guidance just because you will feel better.

Please note alder’s prior condescension towards single airline Fedex pilots before piling on. I did not intend to start a civilian vs military war. I respect all the guys and gals who worked their way up the hard way. But it does not enable them to read something extra into the written word.

Adlerdriver

I guess I missed the "WOM brief" when I started my military service 22 years ago. Maybe I'll get it before I retire sometime this year.

Sorry for any condescending air I gave off. I can see how it came across that way. I was just trying to point out that if the unique aspects of our situation at Fedex is your only frame of reference it would be easy to draw different conclusions than someone at an airline looking the actions of our jumpseaters. I probably could have done it more diplomatically.

Good thing I’m on reserve or I might not have time to respond to this thread. Too bad we have such “insufficient numbers” of us or I would have moved these R-days. Back to my Sudoku.

Busboy

It isn't written policy that we NOT fly DP's. But, we all know it's the wrong thing to do.

You guys and your Army talk. Geesh...

FDXLAG

Certainly didn't mean to imply you haven't served your country; I did mean to imply you missed the mark on what the meaning of "WOM" was in my post.