Clarification:

Vacation knocks out all R days in direct conflict with the vacation footprint and you can "request" to have days removed that are not in direct conflict.

Example: You have an 8 day vacation and expand it to 13 but only 5 days fall under the actual vacation footprint. You "request" where you want the other 8 to come from. Anything left that wasn't conflicted by your vacation buffer, stays where it was originally on your R line.

Schedules cannot just reshuffle the deck and build a new R line with the remaining days. The only thing they can move are R days knocked out by your vacation buffer.

When you extend your vacation you "request" which days you want to go away if they are not in conflict with your vacation. When your "request" is approved (it may not be exactly what you asked for, remember it's only a request) any remaining R days will stay where they originally were on your line.

 

disregard. disregard.

 

This is not accurate, when you have a vacation and a reserve line, you will have an equal number of R days removed for each Vacation Day. If you "extend" you are increasing the number of actual vacation days. The vacation days and buffer are there to protect your vacation footprint. Reserve line reconstruction can be done for removing r days OR moving r days that are in excess of the number you can remove with vacation, but are within the buffer(s) or v day footprint.

From section 7:

b. A reserve line holder’s vacation credit hour bank shall be
reduced by the R-day value for each day of vacation in the
bid period.

There is no provision to only be "charged" hours for the days in conflict with the buffer or vacation footprint. It will always be a 1 for 1 transaction, line rebuilding does include "requests" for either selected days to be removed or where to relocate days that need to be moved from the footprint.

example: 8 days of vacation with 4 buffer days, happens to "cover" 12 r days. Bank reduced by 8 * r day value and 4 r days need to be moved outside of your footprint. You can "request" where those 4 days be located. In the reverse, if your 8 days and buffers touch NO r days, you still are charged 8 * r day value and then you can "request" which 8 r days outside of the footprint are removed, the only hitch here is that scheduling must "retain" the most amount of "original" blocks from your awarded line as possible, if you had a blocks of 3,4 and 8 (assume, all outside of the footprint for ease) scheduling would be compelled to remove the block of 8 and not the 3,4 and 1 day from your 8.

At least that is the way I understand the process.

 

From a bottom feeder that has done this many times, you understand correctly!

 

What is not accurate about what I said????

 

Sorry, should have been a bit more clear. From your post, I got the impression that you are saying that there is not necessarily a direct correlation with V days and the number of R days you will ultimately end up with after processing.

The way you described that scheduling can not "reshuffle" your line with remaining days confused me a bit. I just wanted everyone to be clear that reserve lines are most likely going to be "reconstructed" for 1 of 2 reasons; either you removed too many R days with your footprint OR your footprint did not cover enough days and they need to remove days outside the footprint (this is the part I thought you were saying that CRS can not do).

Sorry if I misunderstood your post. I hope we are all on the same page. Bidding Reserve while on vacation is a pretty good "deal", especially with our ridiculously low r day value! You know the old saying about making lemonade...

Take care.

 

It seems like the 'extra' days were taken off IAW Sec 7.G.3.b. (my footprint did not cover enough days). I won't work any R days in Aug - like he said, lemonade!

 

Did that earlier in the year and then dropped the 2 remaining R days. It's nice to be off 7 weeks straight.

 

7 weeks? I'd forget what airplane to crawl into!

 

I just follow the F/O - hopefully he/she knows which is the right one