Atlas just got the base bid that filled in for the Sonair contract. Ten more pilot recalls, leaving 29 still on the street. No flight engineer recalls, but lots of good rumors.

Must have misread the thread title.......

Try reading all the posts, not just looking at the pretty pictures.

Shoot..I'll take good news in whatever thread it appears! There's precious little of it around lately.

when my hands are on the shiny semi new 400's here at EZ then I will believe
Smitty parted with the cash for them. but rumors are all we have at this point. what is not a rumor is that we are hiring. and its a long time till next December and the yearly furlough. so we got that going for us, which is nice!

Minimums?
 

What are the competitive requirements for even applying? Type required? Time in type? Hours? Turbine PIC or turbojet PIC required?

I hear rumors that we will start hiring. If you want the job apply, you just never know. Having PIC Turbine or even some Boeing experience would help.

Having a pilot walk your stuff in is a bonus, if you have friends working over here.

And the thread title said what? Atlas?...no, I have read the thread.
Cheers

I got called for an Interview with Evergreen and am trying to dig up some information. I know there is no real average schedule flying ACMI, does anyone know what a first year F/O might make on average. I have seen the $53 x 65hrs, is that realistic base pay or can that be supplemented?

Thats is realistic base pay. Unless you whor$ yourself out to the company you will seldom fly more than 65 hrs. We sit in hotels a lot. You'll sit for 7 days and then be extended 2 days for a 5 hour trip. So you might make an extra 10 hours....and yes that is paid as straight time..no overtime here folks!

You can however plan on about $600 in per diem each month you work.

If you want to work 25 or 30 days a month then you'll make plenty of money, but its all straight time over 65 or 16 days and 4hrs a day min after 16 days. Do the math after taxes, insurance, union dues, you're whorrin& yourself out to a company that treats you like sh!t for less than $180 a day. You can make that flight instructing these days!

Thanks for the reply, thats the kind of info that is helpful in making career changing decisions.

Yeah, but. While everything you said is true, I'm sitting here unemployed, missing the hell of the cockpit. What you're doing is staying current...getting transferable heavy experience, at a time when thousands of other guys are wishing they had something...anything. I know it's not pretty; circaidian rhythm destroying, barely above unemployment wages, and family life limiting, but the flip side is that there are others who understand the value of what you have. If you were sitting at home unemployed for a number of months it might put a different perspective on things. This is not meant as a criticism...nor justification for poor wages given the skill required. Just encouragement to enjoy what you have as much as is possible under the circumstances.

Absolutely.

My wife puts me in my place every time I start complaining about long trips and long days and blah, blah, blah...she always says to think of all the guys that are not working, of all the guys that are not doing what we love to do.

Thanks for reminding us of that, captfurlough.

EXACTLY....18 months out now.... thanks captfurlough for saying what many of us feel.... and for all the employed whiners and complainers... I will trade positions right now.

captfurlough, until I get back into the cockpit, I'll stock your groceries for ya any day. Well said.

Amen..

Prayers to those with no job, longing for the life in the cockpit.. Wishing we could all be grateful, and not take for granted what blessings we have..