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Airplaneflyer11 08-27-2009 08:06 AM

Evergreen
 
Hey, any post on here that have to with Evergreen QOL etc.? I did some searching only found two posts. Any help would be great.

jrutt 01-04-2010 12:44 PM

not bad if ur on the dreamlifter, 16 on and great pay.

Green Giant 01-07-2010 07:29 AM

Great bunch of pilots here with Evergreen. Most fun I have had since I started flying. Quality of life is good. Example, you get two weeks off each month. You also get an entire month off for vacation. So it is possible to get two months off depending on how you bid around your vacation.

In negotiations for our first ALPA contract. The salary should be a lot better once the contract gets ratified.

:)

CloudSailor 01-07-2010 08:49 AM

Are you guys home based?

Are there reserve lines or does everybody get 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off?

Glad to hear you guys are hiring and are doing well.

ak2az 01-07-2010 09:31 AM

How does one go about applying? I've talked with the pilot recruiter and he didn't really seem like he had the time to waste talking with me. I've sent my resume a few times, but nothing. What's the best way to get some attention?

splasher 01-07-2010 09:39 AM

Has the application window already closed? The only pilot position listed on their website is for a B-214 pilot in Afghanistan.

say that again 01-07-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by ak2az (Post 739719)
How does one go about applying? I've talked with the pilot recruiter and he didn't really seem like he had the time to waste talking with me. I've sent my resume a few times, but nothing. What's the best way to get some attention?

I can't speak for now but years ago, (like about 25) if you showed up looking for work in McMinnville you showed the tenacity that many never bothered with. It worked for me, was only there for a few years but it was by far the funnest job I've ever had.

Green Giant 01-07-2010 02:24 PM

If you can find the on-line application, then filling it out would be a good option. I didn't know about the on-line application until I was in ground school. You will have to fill out a paper application during the interview regardless of the on-line application.

The best way to get attention is to Mail, Fax, e-mail a resume multible times. A rec from a current Evergreen pilot opens doors too.

I didn't know anyone and just sent enough resumes and finally got the call. The interview is just a "get to know you" type. If you get an interview; you have a 85% chance of getting hired.

We are hiring, so if you want to come over here, this is a good time. As always, it is better to get on earlier than later.

Green Giant 01-07-2010 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 739696)
Are you guys home based?

Are there reserve lines or does everybody get 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off?

Glad to hear you guys are hiring and are doing well.

The bases are JFK, CHS, PAE and SUU. PAE is Everette airport North of Seattle and SUU is outside Sacramento California.

We have hard lines and Researve lines. Two weeks on two weeks off is the norm. We do have some hard lines that are one week on and one week off, but those lines go very senior.

SOTeric 01-07-2010 03:46 PM

[quote=Green Giant;739998]The bases are JFK, CHS, PAE and SUU. PAE is Everette airport North of Seattle and SUU is outside Sacramento California.

We have hard lines and Researve lines. Two weeks on two weeks off is the norm. We do have some hard lines that are one week on and one week off, but those lines go very senior.[/quote

Does SUU go junior?

Green Giant 01-07-2010 03:50 PM

SUU went half half on the F/O side. Either you are real senior or you are real junior. Captain went extremely senior.

SOTeric 01-07-2010 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 740002)
SUU went half half on the F/O side. Either you are real senior or you are real junior. Captain went extremely senior.

I would like to walk in a resume....good idea? McMinnville?

International Cargo is where its at!

atr42flyer 01-07-2010 03:56 PM

how long have negotiations been going on?

Green Giant 01-07-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 740007)
I would like to walk in a resume....good idea? McMinnville?

International Cargo is where its at!

5000 hours total time with 1000 hours PIC jet would be the mins at which I might try that approach. Boeing experience such as a 737 or wide body experience such as a DC-10 would make you more attractive.

If you try that approach I would show up at 8AM in the lobby and would be ready to interview at that time. To me it is an all or nothing approach, if they send you away then you most likely will not hear anything. Might work might not. Depends on the mood of the day.

To be honest I have never heard of anyone getting hired by walking in, but it would also show your motivation for working there. If anything you could enjoy the museam with the Spruce Goose across the street if things don't go well.

Green Giant 01-07-2010 04:21 PM

Forgot to mention, the management types are in McMinnville.

SOTeric 01-07-2010 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 740018)
5000 hours total time with 1000 hours PIC jet would be the mins at which I might try that approach. Boeing experience such as a 737 or wide body experience such as a DC-10 would make you more attractive.

If you try that approach I would show up at 8AM in the lobby and would be ready to interview at that time. To me it is an all or nothing approach, if they send you away then you most likely will not hear anything. Might work might not. Depends on the mood of the day.

To be honest I have never heard of anyone getting hired by walking in, but it would also show your motivation for working there. If anything you could enjoy the museam with the Spruce Goose across the street if things don't go well.

Got about all those mins x 2. (Ex world)

Spruce goose...Im there! Thanks Giant.

Green Giant 01-07-2010 08:39 PM

Good luck to all of you who want to work here. Great place to be with lots of expansion potential.

My advice......never give up and keep trying while improving your qualifications. Sooner or later the hard work will result in a call. We like people who show that they really want to be here.

:D

Worldguy 01-07-2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 740079)
Got about all those mins x 2. (Ex world)

Spruce goose...Im there! Thanks Giant.

Why did you leave WOA?

Green Giant 01-07-2010 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Worldguy (Post 740252)
Why did you leave WOA?

Just a guess, but probably went to United or USAIRWAYS before the big pay cuts and layoffs happened. I had a "crashpad" roomate in Pittsburgh from World and another from Polar. They both said, as everyone was laid off, that they should never have left their former employer.

SOTeric 01-07-2010 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Worldguy (Post 740252)
Why did you leave WOA?

Because I was an idiot.

SOTeric 01-07-2010 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 740254)
Just a guess, but probably went to United or USAIRWAYS before the big pay cuts and layoffs happened. I had a "crashpad" roomate in Pittsburgh from World and another from Polar. They both said, as everyone was laid off, that they should never have left their former employer.

In a nutshell, good guess.

spitfire1500 01-08-2010 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by ak2az (Post 739719)
How does one go about applying? I've talked with the pilot recruiter and he didn't really seem like he had the time to waste talking with me. I've sent my resume a few times, but nothing. What's the best way to get some attention?


Ill tell you why. Someone posted the recruiters number on a webboard and his phone has been ringing all hours at home and work. The way to get hired at Evergreen is by internal rec. So find a friend of a friend that works there and that'll get your paperwork up the pile.

spitfire1500 01-08-2010 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 737741)
not bad if ur on the dreamlifter, 16 on and great pay.

Great pay... The Captains on the Dreamlifter make great pay because the junior Capt has around 20 years seniority. FO pay is a bit tight.

Green Giant 01-08-2010 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by spitfire1500 (Post 740620)
Ill tell you why. Someone posted the recruiters number on a webboard and his phone has been ringing all hours at home and work. The way to get hired at Evergreen is by internal rec. So find a friend of a friend that works there and that'll get your paperwork up the pile.

I don't even have his number. Who posted the number?

atr42flyer 01-14-2010 12:00 PM

how often do you break your monthly guarantee? meaning do you fly more than 65 hours a month? how is the medical? are you in the CASS system? could a new hire hold PAE? is it commutable?

avpro91 01-14-2010 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by atr42flyer (Post 744267)
how often do you break your monthly guarantee? meaning do you fly more than 65 hours a month? how is the medical? are you in the CASS system? could a new hire hold PAE? is it commutable?

Depends, some months you can get 80 hrs, some you sit for 16 days and get paid for the 65. Most months people are getting extended to 18 days right now cause the choose to understaff. Just count on guarantee and anything extra is a bonus and you be alright.

The medical isn't too bad, not as good as other airlines, but not horrible. Just yourself is about$100 a month and a family is like $280 I think.

We are CASS

No, you will not get PAE. You will most likely get the Classic in JFK. Possibility of new hires in the 400 in the future, but not right now.

Commutable? Depends on where you live. You only have to go to work once a month and get home once, so usually not a problem.

SOTeric 01-17-2010 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by avpro91 (Post 744468)
Depends, some months you can get 80 hrs, some you sit for 16 days and get paid for the 65. Most months people are getting extended to 18 days right now cause the choose to understaff. Just count on guarantee and anything extra is a bonus and you be alright.

The medical isn't too bad, not as good as other airlines, but not horrible. Just yourself is about$100 a month and a family is like $280 I think.

We are CASS

No, you will not get PAE. You will most likely get the Classic in JFK. Possibility of new hires in the 400 in the future, but not right now.

Commutable? Depends on where you live. You only have to go to work once a month and get home once, so usually not a problem.

Do the dreamliner pilots fly the other 747s too or are they dedicated dreamliner pilots?

Scooter2525 01-17-2010 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 740018)
5000 hours total time with 1000 hours PIC jet would be the mins at which I might try that approach. Boeing experience such as a 737 or wide body experience such as a DC-10 would make you more attractive.

Hardfast mins or recommended?

11Fan 01-17-2010 05:20 PM

And a fourth LCF just flew. Coming to a runway near you.

avpro91 01-17-2010 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 745910)
Do the dreamliner pilots fly the other 747s too or are they dedicated dreamliner pilots?

Right now just the LCF. Those are the only 400's we have....as soon as we get BCF's or 400F's....those too.

jrutt 01-17-2010 08:04 PM

what do ya mean the f/o pay is tight, f/o pay rocks. u have just had it to good for to long. ur going to get extended from now on also!

frozenboxhauler 01-18-2010 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 746096)
what do ya mean the f/o pay is tight, f/o pay rocks. u have just had it to good for to long. ur going to get extended from now on also!

Huh??? Someone, please, just shoot me!
fbh

Whaledriver 01-18-2010 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by avpro91 (Post 746016)
Right now just the LCF. Those are the only 400's we have....as soon as we get BCF's or 400F's....those too.

Are you sure of that? When we (Atlas) were looking over the Boeing LCF deal, one of the major stumbling blocks for Atlas was that Boeing wanted dedicated crews. No flying of our other -400's was going to be allowed.

Moondog 01-19-2010 04:05 PM

The only pilot job they show on the website, at least that I could find, was in Afghanistan. No thanks. Any words of wisdom??

jrutt 01-20-2010 04:29 PM

Afghanistan is lovely this time of year. and your going to be going ther. weather your with the airlines or the helicopter's. ther may be direct hiring into the 400's later in the year. the bidding is going real junior as the upper f/o's are awaiting upgrades. but with no expansion and the geezers hanging on the bids may change. who knows?

fedupbusdriver 01-20-2010 04:49 PM

I'd say you're whether their is grate.

ak2az 01-20-2010 05:25 PM

[quote=spitfire1500;740620]Ill tell you why. Someone posted the recruiters number on a webboard and his phone has been ringing all hours at home and work.quote]

Thats not how I got incontact with the recruiter. I simply called HQ and asked to be conected with the pilot recruiter, easy as that.

EZRider 01-21-2010 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by jrutt (Post 748041)
ther may be direct hiring into the 400's later in the year. the bidding is going real junior as the upper f/o's are awaiting upgrades. but with no expansion and the geezers hanging on the bids may change. who knows?

To put specific #'s to the conjecture:

Based on the latest standing bid (1st Qtr. 2010, issued in Dec. 2009) the junior guy on the line (also the most junior guy with a LCF bid) will go to LCF training in July 2010. There's been hiring since then (4 in December, 4 in January I think, and likely 4 more will start in February as well), but nobody knows what their bids are yet. We were told that approximately 34 guys would potentially be hired this year, but we're told a lot of things that don't come true.

Like most airlines, until you:
  • see it painted on the ramp
  • you're sitting in it
it's just a rumor.

Let's hope the hiring continues, not just here, but at other companies too.

Green Giant 01-21-2010 04:45 PM

Latest rumor I heard, from a reliable source, is that the hiring is for B747-400F and B747-400BCF expansion. Eventually new hires will go directly into the -400.

One more B747-400LCF will be here next month with three B747-400BCF to be delivered before 2011. There are plenty of B747-400F and B747-400BCF's parked in the desert. There is speculation that more B747-400's will show up and if so you can expect more hiring.

Like everyone says, believe the rumors when you are walking out to fly it.

SOTeric 01-21-2010 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Green Giant (Post 748845)
Latest rumor I heard, from a reliable source, is that the hiring is for B747-400F and B747-400BCF expansion. Eventually new hires will go directly into the -400.

One more B747-400LCF will be here next month with three B747-400BCF to be delivered before 2011. There are plenty of B747-400F and B747-400BCF's parked in the desert. There is speculation that more B747-400's will show up and if so you can expect more hiring.

Like everyone says, believe the rumors when you are walking out to fly it.

I usually believe them when I hear "positive rate".

Anyway, good news. Also, I hear Atlas is recalling.


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