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SaltyDog 09-15-2009 05:44 PM

AC Advisory 70-2 covers Reporting of Laser Illumination of Aircraft. Google it.
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu.../key/AC%2070-2


A real PITA, (pain in the a$$), but all of us need to follow more than company reporting. Have found from my own experience, the company was pretty ignorant of all the data required/suggested by several interested parties. If they followed the reporting as recommended in the 70-2, good for them. Doubtful they do.

Copy should go to the Washington Operations Control Center
Seek medical evaluation. As stated, Laser illumination can do damage without feeling pain.

From the Callback Safety folks " Advisory Circular 70-2 details the reporting procedures to be used by air crews who experience a laser illumination incident, and suggests practical actions pilots may consider taking before, during, and after encountering laser activity.
Immediately report the laser incident to ATC, including the event position (e.g., latitude/longitude and/or fixed radial distance), altitude, direction and position of the laser source, beam color, and length of exposure (flash or intentional tracking).
Pilots flying in uncontrolled airspace are requested to immediately broadcast a general laser illumination caution on the appropriate UNICOM frequency. This general caution should include the following elements:

Phrase “Unauthorized Laser Illumination Event”

Event time (UTC) and general positional information (e.g., location and altitude)

General description of event (e.g., color, intensity, and direction of beam)
Pilots should avoid flight within areas of reported ongoing unauthorized laser activity to the extent possible.
If laser activity is encountered while pilots are in contact with ATC, pilots should obtain authorization prior to deviating from their last assigned clearance.
Pilots should avoid direct eye contact with lasers and should shield their eyes to the maximum extent possible during a laser incident.
We hope this information on laser illumination hazards has been useful, and we would appreciate any additional reports to ASRS on laser incidents."

123454321 09-15-2009 05:47 PM

I got the same thing last night flying into Chicago Executive. About a seven mile left base for 16 descending through 2,000 ft. Just a heads up.

hyperone 09-15-2009 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by slipped (Post 679168)
I doubt you or anyone will have serious or permanent damage from this.

Well Slipped, unless you've dealt with high power lasers before, you may not understand the dangers. They can do a lot of damage, especially if you look right at the source like Goose17 may have done. Here's an older article about the dangers:

By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
September 29, 2004

A pilot flying a Delta Air Lines jet was injured by a laser that
illuminated the cockpit of the aircraft as it approached Salt Lake
City International Airport last week, U.S. officials said.

The plane's two pilots reported that the Boeing 737 had been five
miles from the airport when they saw a laser beam inside the cockpit,
said officials familiar with government reports of the Sept. 22
incident. The flight, which originated in Dallas, landed without
further incident at about 9:30 p.m. local time.

A short while later, however, the first officer felt a stinging
sensation in one eye. A doctor who examined the pilot determined that
he had suffered a burned retina from exposure to a laser device, the
officials said.

Transportation Security Administration (TSA) spokeswoman Yolanda Clark
confirmed the incident, but declined to provide details.

"TSA is aware of the incident, and we are working with the airline in
conducting an investigation to try and determine the cause of the
incident," Miss Clark said.

She would not say whether TSA considers the incident a possible
security threat to commercial aircraft. Other officials said the
incident was serious enough that the pilot will be unable to fly for
at least a week.

"So far, it doesn't sound like there will be permanent [eye] damage,"
one official said.

The identity of the pilot could not be learned, and Delta spokesman
Anthony Black declined to comment.

Officials were unsure of the source of the laser and could not
determine whether the exposure was deliberate or accidental.

John Mazor, a spokesman for the Air Line Pilots Association, said
commercial pilots have been exposed to laser illumination.

"The Air Line Pilots Association has received reports in the past of
incidents where lasers penetrated cockpits and, in at least one case,
caused injury," Mr. Mazor said.

Several years ago, a pilot flying into a Western airport was hit by a
light from a laser light show. The causes of the other incidents are
not known, he said.

Asked whether a laser aimed at pilots could cause a plane to crash,
Mr. Mazor said: "I think that's highly improbable. In every case in
the past, the flights landed safely."

Military personnel also have suffered eye damage from laser
illumination.

In one case, Naval Lt. Cmdr. Jack Daly and Canadian helicopter pilot
Capt. Pat Barnes suffered eye injuries hours after an aerial
surveillance mission to photograph a Russian merchant ship that had
been shadowing the ballistic-missile submarine USS Ohio in Washington
state's Strait of Juan de Fuca.

The Navy recently turned down an appeal from the Defense Department
inspector general to award Cmdr. Daly a Purple Heart for the incident.
Cmdr. Daly, who retired from the service last year, continues to
suffer eye pain and deteriorating vision.

During congressional testimony in 1999, he warned of laser threats to
pilots.

"Numerous documented cases regarding the use of lasers against
aircraft, civilians and military personnel exist, as well as does an
all-too-lengthy list of the injuries that have resulted from the
accidental and intentional misuse of these devices," Cmdr. Daly told a
House Armed Services subcommittee.

He noted that incidents of lasers being directed at commercial
airliners during takeoff and landings have raised fears that "this in
fact may be a new form of terrorism."

"Lasers are easily obtainable and can be self-manufactured weapons in
the terrorist arsenal, which essentially can effect a soft-kill
solution and leave virtually no detectable evidence," he said.

MaxKts 09-15-2009 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by slipped (Post 679168)
I doubt you or anyone will have serious or permanent damage from this.


What makes you the Medical Expert on this????

Laughing_Jakal 09-15-2009 10:50 PM

well
 
Due to your background as a Humpy.....they knew you were a National Treasure


Goose.......Hope you're ok.....Thanks for the Headsup

OKLATEX 09-16-2009 07:10 AM

For those interested in the time to get to the Eye Doctor after a laser event, I found it in my notes.

The company said get to the Doctor within 48 hours.

Goose17 09-16-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OKLATEX (Post 679377)
For those interested in the time to get to the Eye Doctor after a laser event, I found it in my notes.

The company said get to the Doctor within 48 hours.


What notes? From where?

OKLATEX 09-16-2009 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Goose17 (Post 679516)
What notes? From where?

Notes I took from recurrent ground school this past spring. The Security Talk they had this year delt with laser events. He mentioned the Delta incident. His advice was to get to the Doctor within 48 hours and they should be able to reverse any damage.

That's all I really have as far as advice.

slipped 09-16-2009 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKts (Post 679250)
What makes you the Medical Expert on this????

What makes you infer I am a medical expert?

Obviously just my opinion.

USMCFLYR 09-16-2009 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by slipped (Post 679168)
I doubt you or anyone will have serious or permanent damage from this.


Originally Posted by MaxKts (Post 679250)
What makes you the Medical Expert on this????


Originally Posted by slipped (Post 679658)
What makes you infer I am a medical expert?

Obviously just my opinion.

I don't know slipped - but your comment above certainly made it sound like you knew what you were talking about. What people are pointing out - and maybe you haven't had some of the laser training that some in the military get or training that some seem to get in recurrent - but your statement is just out of line. Laser are extremely serious business and can absolutely cause damage and they don't have to be of the Stars Wars Death Star variety.

USMCFLYR


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