TYPICAL covering the overstaffing in ANC with MEM htl stdby Look at this open time for ANC and MEM.


2142 CHTR 06NOV 06NOV 1338 12NOV 2140 4243 F/O
2143 CHTR 06NOV 06NOV 1338 12NOV 2140 4243 RFO
2086 AUG 06NOV 06NOV 1915 09NOV 2115 2048 RFO
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2247 XTRA 05NOV 05NOV 1426 12NOV 0314 4213 F/O
2248 XTRA 05NOV 05NOV 1426 12NOV 0314 4213 F/O
2249 XTRA 05NOV 05NOV 1435 12NOV 0314 4210 F/

What section of the contract do you guys think we should grieve over the use of R-24s? Sec. 25.M.3.v. is not the problem. The problem is the company's implementation of 4A2b. And, we've already taken that to arbitration.

I can't give you an arbitrator's decision that is worse than what we got the company to settle for...If we settled, it doesn't go to arbitration.:D But, just go to the grievance committee's page on the ALPA website. Go to the bottom of the page and look at how many grievances were "won" by us. Then, look at how many grievances were settled at some point, prior to the arbitrator's decision, and ask yourself why?

Administrative Grievance Summaries

About the response I expected.... to be ridiculed and chastised for not going along with the union "mob" mentality. Wow you guys are real pieces of work. Heaven forbid that someone disagree with you, or dare to be pro-company in any way, shape or form. Being a pilot here has got to be one of the best, easiest jobs in the world, for one of the best companies in the world. I don't understand why some of you seem to want a hostile relationship with the company. To me that just seems like it makes the job harder than it needs to be. However, just to make sure I'm clear on where I stand. 1st, enjoying my job is a problem. Got it. 2nd, having the work ethic to go the extra mile and do whatever it takes to accomplish the mission is a problem. Got that too. 3rd, showing respect for other employee groups, and being friendly with them instead of talking down to them and acting like an overly important prima-donna is a problem. Also got it.:rolleyes:

No, I'm not in management, and likely never will be. I don't want to fly a desk. I do, however, like flying airplanes, as much as possible, and the more often I can do it, the better. Flying isn't just a job or career to me, it's also fun. I didn't get into this for the money, or to work the system to stay home as much as possible and get paid for it, or for short duty days with long, cushy layovers. As long as I'm making enough money to pay my bills and live a reasonably comfortable lifestyle, then I'm a happy camper. FedEx not only meets that criteria, but I also feel as though I've been treated pretty darn good since I've been here. Perfect, no, but good nonetheless.

Someone made the comment that I must have had some pretty lousy jobs in my life. The truth is no, not really. I had some where I worked much, much harder than I ever have here, but I approached those jobs with the same attitude I have here and for the most part enjoyed those jobs as well.

Now THAT's crazy talk!!!! You should report to the collection site, immediately.

Glad you like it here! Yes it is a great job but, after being bent over enough times there is no longer any reason - in my opinion - to go the extra mile to get the job done. I use my "work ethic" to do the job I was trained to do and if for some reason I feel I cannot do it at 100% then I say "no, find someone else". It's not personal it's just business!
And, I don't think anyone on here is advocating belittling other employee groups. Although, I could tell some stories about how they have treated us in the past but not today.

Now yours is a statement I can respect, even if I don't agree with all of it. I don't feel I've been "bent over," that much, so we'll agree to disagree on that one. As far as other employee groups, I'm well aware of the stories of the anti-pilot rallies back when you were negotiating contract 1 (I wasn't here yet.) Not something I would have been happy to see, but at the same time, if they felt their livelihood was being threatened by the actions of a small group of employees (relative to the overall number of employees,) I can also see where they were coming from.

Maybe no one is advocating belittling other groups, but I've certainly read plenty of negative comments on here about the people in crew scheduling (they're actually pretty good folks, for the most part, and probably have one of the most thankless jobs in the company,) GOC (they're all licensed dispatchers, have a training and standards program and once we go flag/domestic will by FAR have joint operational control of each flight along with the captain...just like at all the other major airlines,) company management (like many of us would have the first clue how to profitably run a multi-billion dollar corporation,) and hub/ramp workers (yeah, some of them are of questionable intelligence, but they're not that bad.) To read some of the comments on here, you would get the impression that some on this board are of the opinion that the crew force is the only group of employees that makes the operation go, we're more important than any other group and every decision the company makes should be in our best interest. Since I have friends, or at least acquaintences, in all of those areas, I get a little irritated when some pompous alpha hotel who knows nothing about what those folks really do goes spouting off on here about how GOC doesn't know what they're doing, or management is screwing him, or how CRS is conspiring to hide open time in order to serve some nefarious purpose. (I have it on good authority, from a person who would know and I trust, that they're not.)

KDEN -

Here's your new avatar, dude! You might have to resize it -

Originally Posted by KDENPilot http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
...I didn't get into this for the money, or to work the system to stay home as much as possible and get paid for it, or for short duty days with long, cushy layovers.. .



Thats exactly why I got into this....

I would expect an arrbitrator to say FDX you caused the shortage you fix it. But the point is we will never know; we reached a settlement agreement. You do not think they are violating the intent of the contract?

Let me guess KDEN -

You got hired right around the postal contract and are now a mid level MD11 FO doing one departure lines. How much reserve have you done? Maybe 2 or 3 months in your 8 or so years here?

Yeah, life is good for you. Reserve is for losers and this excess stuff doesn't affect you a bit. How many folks have you signed up for your pull up the ladder campaign?