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11-26-2009 | 05:22 AM

viperdriver

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VTO and leveling

I got a Reserve line converted to VTO. It has a few trips and Reserve. I think I get leveled for the trips before the Rdays. What if I trade them for another trip do I still get leveled?

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11-26-2009 | 05:32 AM

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I got a Reserve line converted to VTO. It has a few trips and Reserve. I think I get leveled for the trips before the Rdays. What if I trade them for another trip do I still get leveled?

Thanks

I haven't had a VTO in 6+ months, BUT when I was in the same situation I traded every one of my trips and was still leveled for the traded trips.

With the way things have been going lately...you're guess is as good as mine.

11-26-2009 | 05:32 AM

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I got a Reserve line converted to VTO. It has a few trips and Reserve. I think I get leveled for the trips before the Rdays. What if I trade them for another trip do I still get leveled?

Thanks

No you do not. But I don't think it's really going to matter in DEC. Everybody will be flying on reserve no matter the leveling. But remember, we are overmanned.

11-26-2009 | 05:43 AM

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CBA 4.D.2. CH earned prior to an R-day shall apply toward reserve
leveling.

= yes - doesn't say "if you don't trade the original trips for different trips"

says SHALL apply.

11-26-2009 | 09:03 AM

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You know, I was think about trips that were made up in the conflict window. If u trade those you do not get leveling. But I still don't think it's going to matter because there are a lot of trips still in open time.

11-26-2009 | 09:48 AM

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Leveling hasnt mattered in the Bus F/O seat for 3 months.........you could have 40 hours Vac leveling and still get used every day......overmanned badly

11-26-2009 | 10:28 AM

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It's possible Futures has broken the code on insufficient reserves; MEM A300FO bottom VTOs = all Reserve days.

11-26-2009 | 11:28 AM

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It's possible Futures has broken the code on insufficient reserves; MEM A300FO bottom VTOs = all Reserve days.

Been that way in the MD for years.

Just another contract problem. RA at the complete whim of the company? Ain't no better deal than that.

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11-26-2009 | 02:47 PM

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TH is right if you add a CIC trip to your Reserve line you get the leveling for that trip, but if you trade for any reason the code changes from CIC to Make up and you lose the leveling. I'm 100% sure of that.

IMHO if you have a trip that is part of your line and you trade it I bet you lose the leveling. The code will go from TRP to SON. It all depends on how they pay the SON trip. I know that's no help, but the point is, it's all in the coding of the new trip, and no matter how you trade it will change from TRP to something else and I bet you/we lose that leveling.

Yet another thing we need to have fixed in the next contract!!