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meatloaf 12-29-2009 08:11 AM

Yes, it looks like sick leave is on the radar now. Just another grab by the company, with the goal of squeezing more profit out of us. Guess 4a2b isn't enough.

BTW...yes, it is a violation of federal law to demand an employee share medical information from a doctor with his/her employer. I have no interest in sharing this information. If I'm sick...I'm sick. Period.

ol'tigerguy 12-29-2009 08:19 AM

A buddy of mine, Airbus Capt., calls in sick over xmas. He gets the " prove it" notification. So he makes a tee time with his doctor/buddy to be evaluated. The doctor gives him a notepad (about 50) of return to work notices. They are all signed and only the first one is filled in.The doc tells said Bus Capt. to fill out and date each one as neccessary. The one he turns in that the doc had already filled out is written in latin. It was for a yeast infection, never heard a word.

AFW_MD11 12-29-2009 08:25 AM

Ding....Ding.....Ding....Ding....!!
 

Originally Posted by ol'tigerguy (Post 734358)
A buddy of mine, Airbus Capt., calls in sick over xmas. He gets the " prove it" notification. So he makes a tee time with his doctor/buddy to be evaluated. The doctor gives him a notepad (about 50) of return to work notices. They are all signed and only the first one is filled in.The doc tells said Bus Capt. to fill out and date each one as neccessary. The one he turns in that the doc had already filled out is written in latin. It was for a yeast infection, never heard a word.

funniest post of the week!

yeast infection!!

Classic....I love it! :D

FlynLow 12-29-2009 12:48 PM

By the way...big brother is out there...
 
Remember that LK, aka "Deputy Dog", expense report master auditor, pariah, 6th down in the chain of the command from the President in his previous life as a reserve officer(or so he claimed to a bunch of kids in school on a career day) monitors these boards...

If your sick, your sick. If you get a call or a letter, tell them your sick, and that is it. Call the union. The company doesn't need to know why your sick, just that your unable to perform your duties or you were under a DR's care.

There has been a trend that if you have a sick day near one of the holidays or days listed in the contract that they will most likely ask for a letter. It has all but become SOP or so I'm told. You could call in sick for a trip on the 20th, an out and back, and not work till XMAS and still get a little because it is "adjacent" to a holiday.

Happy Holidays...oh by the way, two of my reserve trips had the same Flex Capt in the right seat on draft....we are overmanned, YEAH RIGHT!:confused:

69boeing 12-29-2009 02:17 PM

Just to conclude this thread, I spoke with the union this morning and was told that "in conjunction with" has been interpreted to mean the 'day of, day before and day after'. Since my trip had an AM D/H on the 23rd to MEM, I was flagged.

Guess you can't read the contract literally.

I don't remember reading this interpretation anywhere, but I may have missed it...

MaxKts 12-29-2009 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by 69boeing (Post 734593)
Just to conclude this thread, I spoke with the union this morning and was told that "in conjunction with" has been interpreted to mean the 'day of, day before and day after'. Since my trip had an AM D/H on the 23rd to MEM, I was flagged.

Guess you can't read the contract literally.

I don't remember reading this interpretation anywhere, but I may have missed it...

Using that interpretation why not just say anytime in the month is considered "in conjunction with"!!! This is total BS and needs to stop!

The old interpretation was the "in conjunction with" went with a vacation period only.

The Contract Enforcement crowd needs to grow a pair and tell the company to pack sand and go by what the contract says and not what they want it to say.

Time Off 12-29-2009 05:13 PM

[QUOTE
The Contract Enforcement crowd needs to grow a pair and tell the company to pack sand and go by what the contract says and not what they want it to say.[/QUOTE]

EXACTLY!

FDXLAG 12-29-2009 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Time Off (Post 734680)
The Contract Enforcement crowd needs to grow a pair and tell the company to pack sand and go by what the contract says and not what they want it to say.

EXACTLY!

If recent history (ie accepted fares) is an example WE ARE DOOMED.

max8222 12-29-2009 07:08 PM

Flynlow, Not to hijack the thread but glad to see the Capt's (the ones flying draft in the right seat) helping everyone out. Wonder why some FO's are still mad about the age 60 thing and about Capt's taking their seat, now they are taking our right seat! I am pretty sure FO's are not flying draft in the left seat. I guess the 20% paycut from 4a2b and the loss of pay from not being able to upgrade is not enough for some of us to give up.

Happy Holidays! I am off until Feb 2010!

FlyByNite 12-30-2009 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by 69boeing (Post 734593)
Just to conclude this thread, I spoke with the union this morning and was told that "in conjunction with" has been interpreted to mean the 'day of, day before and day after'. Since my trip had an AM D/H on the 23rd to MEM, I was flagged.

Guess you can't read the contract literally.

I don't remember reading this interpretation anywhere, but I may have missed it...

Bet you spoke to David T....he's the contract "expert" that always seems to work for the company. My opinion, it been long overdue for him to go. Perhaps David needs to take an english lesson. The contract states "in conjuction with your vacation or a holiday....." what it does not state is " in conjuction with either your vacation or a holiday..." These folks in contract enforcement are supposed to be our advocates. In my experience they are not. This is another clear cut case of the company over interpreting the contract with our guys standing by watching.


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