I didn't say it was.....you did (or at least you said it is what they are doing.)

we agree.....again.....the statement I made regarding not being "pro-pilot" was in response to Mayday's thing of helping a pilot out of trouble when they had gotten themselves in trouble by (I ass-u-me-d) breaking the rules

I still say any management pilot that established a pattern of "covering for his bro's" or condoning bad behavior would, indeed, be shown the door?

we agree again......I, unfortunately, never met that person - but, it sounds like he was an example of what we would both like to see in the people management hires.

I also think this type of manager is a thing of the past here at FedEx - see my next statement below.

Unfortunately, this is where it breaks down....I would submit that is exactly how the "new regime" in FedEx upper-level management likes it/wants it to be - and they are not interested in hiring "guys with a different philosophy" - in fact, just the opposite.

The management guys from the past who were "pro-pilot" are all but gone and if they have been recently hired (by accident) and they are found to be more "pro-pilot" than desired......they will shortly be returned to the line

seems like we agree on more than you thought......maybe....maybe not

LK demonstrated by his behavior in the AF Reserve, that he was a back-stabbing, predatory manager long before he was in a management positon in FedEx. If the person who hired him into his now-former management position had done their due diligence, I think they would have concluded that he was not the type of person this company needs to represent management. (God I crack myself up.) Either they never vetted him or they did and didn't care that he's the kind of person who abuses his position because he believed that behavior was rungs on the ladder to becoming the SCP.

I don't mind the company's policy of tracking down and discipling those who violate rules and law. I do mind managers who's technique is abusive, deceptive and predatory. I also do mind a company who supports that kind of manager by putting him in the position to carry out his personal agenda. Make clear the difference between corporate policy, and personal technique and individual agenda.

Maybe that is why he is out.

I hope he gets the treatment he deserves when he goes to the line.

MM...I think he actually threw his hat in for the MEC vice chairman job, in the last election, only to pull out later. But hey, if he didn't feel he could give it the time that it required, he did the right thing. JK was one of a handfull in his age group I always thought of as future MEC chairman material, so I am a bit surprised in his career change of direction. However, this could be a win-win. JK has walked the walk and we now have somebody overseeing HKG, LAX and ANC who can relate to you when you are 'splaining what happened. From what I know of him, he's honest and fair and until proven otherwise, I'd say that's what we should expect. Could change and even a honest and fair referee will throw the flag if you commit a penalty, but let's hope we have a pilot advocate in JK. (BTW, our Brown brothers must be scratching their collective heads over this one. An ALPA National Chair goes to a management position at FedEx.....say what???)

I agree with Aeris JK is a stand up guy. I have known him for years and it is great to have him in there. Something is seriously wrong with the system though...

FCIF just posted seeking ACP for ANC.

You can hear the screams of joy from the far side of the world.

My sphincter is still sore from the horror of the last guy. I'm not holding my breath waiting for a statue outside of Ops of the Dawg, but I'm sure JK will be an improvement.

Good news.

Ok Bro.....your talking sense now.......so why this "No, no yo comprendo....Are you out of your mind?" From a previous post. Was it a late night?

I think we'll be happy with the guys he hires!