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IPAMD11FO 07-03-2006 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Precontact
We fly many legs which won't qualify as a crossing as defined in the TA, but are long flights indeed and certainly the intent should be to include them all. (CGN-DXB comes to mind). Any north to south flying or vice versa would be exempt as well. I feel we need to clarify some things with this TA.

I spoke with an EB member about "crossings" as it applies to some routes, specifically north-south and vice versa. Apparently our MIA reps (not UPS) thought the language would wreck the MIA schedules even worse than what they are now and didn't want it applied to them.

As far as clarification, the Meaning and Intent document for A13 alone is over 800 pages. I am looking forward to the road shows to ask many more questions.

viktorbravo 07-03-2006 12:24 PM

I wish they would let us read that M&I doc. However, from what I have digested so far, its not really necessary.


Originally Posted by IPAMD11FO
I spoke with an EB member about "crossings" as it applies to some routes, specifically north-south and vice versa. Apparently our MIA reps (not UPS) thought the language would wreck the MIA schedules even worse than what they are now and didn't want it applied to them.

As far as clarification, the Meaning and Intent document for A13 alone is over 800 pages. I am looking forward to the road shows to ask many more questions.


IPAMD11FO 07-03-2006 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by viktorbravo
I wish they would let us read that M&I doc.

They intend to "soon", whatever that means. Right now it's in several binders and not in electronic format.

Pilot7576 07-03-2006 04:06 PM

crossings
 
Guys..

What is the difference between a Latin America crossing and a SNA turn out of SDF? Seems to me they are about the same...

JMO

Pilot7576

Linepilot 07-04-2006 06:57 AM

As a pilot for UPS please let me disassociate myself and the other 2700 crewmembers from Browntail. He is a complete idiot and has no credibility, nor does he portray the overall attitudes and thoughts of our group.

His latest post that uses a 96hr monthly credit to compute F/O second year pay is proff to me that he is probably not even crewmember. My guess is that he is either an intern or a management plant.

Please, under no circumstances, give any credit to his posts.

ryane946 07-04-2006 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Linepilot
That is proff to me that he is probably not even crewmember. My guess is that he is either an intern or a management plant.

Please, under no circumstances, give any credit to his posts.

I think that is giving him too much credibility. I put him as a high school student in Louisville. I would bet he is under 20 and has no affiliation with UPS (except maybe a delivery driver, or a ramp worker).

WEACLRS 07-04-2006 09:03 AM

Can someone speak to retirements that are coming? And current or projected upgrade time? I can see their aircraft delivery schedule and factor than in...

Thanks!

Precontact 07-04-2006 01:10 PM

M&i
 
I'm looking forward to the M&I myself. Do the MIA guys like this TA? I'll be at the PHL roadshow later this week. Should be interesting.

Originally Posted by IPAMD11FO
I spoke with an EB member about "crossings" as it applies to some routes, specifically north-south and vice versa. Apparently our MIA reps (not UPS) thought the language would wreck the MIA schedules even worse than what they are now and didn't want it applied to them.

As far as clarification, the Meaning and Intent document for A13 alone is over 800 pages. I am looking forward to the road shows to ask many more questions.



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