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Old 02-17-2010 | 07:52 PM
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Just curious what you guys think...If FDX really was overstaffed. Let's say by 300, for argument's sake. How exactly, by the contract, would FDX have to implent it, legally in your minds?

Would they need to have excess bids that put the 300 "extra" guys in the 727 S/O seat? And, then buy up their lines, until we came out of 4A2b? What would they have to buy them up to?

What could the BLG spread be between the different aircraft? Based on what?

What could the spread be between the seats on an individual aircraft? Based on what?
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Old 02-17-2010 | 08:00 PM
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They could pay me peanuts and I would just be glad I don't have to borrow my kids bike to do a paper route.

Anyone know how I can donate more hours to my senior mentors to help keep me on the property?

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Old 02-17-2010 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Just curious what you guys think...If FDX really was overstaffed. Let's say by 300, for argument's sake. How exactly, by the contract, would FDX have to implent it, legally in your minds?

Would they need to have excess bids that put the 300 "extra" guys in the 727 S/O seat? And, then buy up their lines, until we came out of 4A2b? What would they have to buy them up to?

What could the BLG spread be between the different aircraft? Based on what?

What could the spread be between the seats on an individual aircraft? Based on what?
Kind of a strange fishing expedition you're on, BB. I'm not biting, though.
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Old 02-17-2010 | 08:20 PM
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Kind of a strange fishing expedition you're on, BB. I'm not biting, though.

How odd...When you actually ask for APCer's opinions on a subject. They don't want to give it to you.
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Old 02-17-2010 | 08:22 PM
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4A2b. The minimum bid period guarantee shall be reduced to a minimum of 48/60 CH before any pilot is furloughed. At least a full bid period must follow the announcement of this action. This provision shall only be used to prevent or delay a furlough.

I think that prior to entering 4A2b they would have to demonstrate that they can put out a schedule with the Maximum Guarantee for each seat at 61/73.

I think that prior to entering 4A2b they would have to announce how they can furlough the bottom 300 and continue to man that particular base.

When they can demonstrate they can furlough the bottom 300 without completely disrupting their flying schedule they could then enter 4A2b and reduce guarantee.

However, if trips are found to be hidden from the bid pack or if trips are moved between Bases just to keep one bid pack below guarantee the company should be hit with a sledge hammer.
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Old 02-17-2010 | 08:29 PM
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If all the old guys would retire, we wouldn't be overmanned. Is that an answer?
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Old 02-17-2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
If all the old guys would retire, we wouldn't be overmanned. Is that an answer?
Yes. That is an answer. Just not to my questions.


But, that is a great idea.
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Old 02-17-2010 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
If all the old guys would retire, we wouldn't be overmanned. Is that an answer?
By Old Guys, do you mean all the over 60 Guys or all the Guys who are Captains or just all all the Guys who are senior to you?
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Old 02-17-2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Busdrivr
By Old Guys, do you mean all the over 60 Guys or all the Guys who are Captains or just all all the Guys who are senior to you?
Golfandfly, Sorry I meant for reply to go to BusBoy
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Originally Posted by Busdrivr
By Old Guys, do you mean all the over 60 Guys or all the Guys who are Captains or just all all the Guys who are senior to you?
Any/all of the above.
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