UPS- How Come??
03-01-2010, 09:07 PM
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151CA, I flew that wreck also...4498Y another Shorts that we see on the ramp in SDF.
Here's a question for the "hunting dawgs", who owns all the Bluebird/Maersk airplanes that fly out of Cologne.
FF
Here's a question for the "hunting dawgs", who owns all the Bluebird/Maersk airplanes that fly out of Cologne.
FF
03-01-2010, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Dawg
This thread is about the IPA, Local 2727 mechs, and UPS, it could eventually end up at YOUR airline by undercutting your job, the new tail number on the aircraft is N151CA registered to UPS so the FAA did thier job. There are work rules about aircraft owned by UPS and operated and maintained by others that my friends is a BIG violation of both unions. So rest assured they do what they want and pay whom they want....I, was just bringing the issue to light so my brothers at the IPA would do what they have to do...
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03-02-2010, 12:12 AM
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As an non UPS pilot, I'd have to ask a couple of questions.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
03-02-2010, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by say that again
Where in the contract does it spell out that all UPS "owned" aircraft will be flown by IPA crew members?
03-02-2010, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
As an non UPS pilot, I'd have to ask a couple of questions.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
03-02-2010, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
As an non UPS pilot, I'd have to ask a couple of questions.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
Since the military splits up their business, is UPS flying their full allotment of flying on other planes? If so, then UPS can't just go out and fly more. It doesn't work that way. The cargo business is further split between contoured and non contoured (IE: B 747 and AN 124). So you'd have to look at that too. I know that UPS is on the FedEX team and you'd have to look at the split of business within your team too. An example is that World flies the contoured cargo within the Alliance team using our MD-11's. Since we got B 747's, we can only fly the non contoured cargo that our teams primary member (Evergreen) can't handle.
03-02-2010, 09:32 AM
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To be honest, I can't find a referrence on the internet for fy 2010. I know that the teams change year by year and I was supprised when someone told me FedEx and you were on the same team. The general drift is the same. Is UPS flying it's full alloment or not? We have planes sitting, but we can't fly any more mil cargo. We are at our limit.
Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
I don't think that's right that UPS and FDX are on the same team. Are you sure about that?
03-02-2010, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
To be honest, I can't find a referrence on the internet for fy 2010. I know that the teams change year by year and I was supprised when someone told me FedEx and you were on the same team. The general drift is the same. Is UPS flying it's full alloment or not? We have planes sitting, but we can't fly any more mil cargo. We are at our limit.
No reason UPS can't put the excess airlift capacity into flying more of the UPS Team award.
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