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Laughing_Jakal 03-30-2010 10:30 AM

Not enough lift? - UPS
 
They picked a really good time to announce a furlough huh? Hopefully there aren't too many people picking up extra......we haven't figured that out yet over in the delta.

Thought I had read somewhere that you had the IPad contract.

Apple pushes back shipping of new iPad pre-orders - Yahoo! Finance

UPSFO4LIFE 03-30-2010 10:47 AM

On Thursday of last week, UPS provided a confidential briefing to the IPA Executive Board concerning plans to move a large amount of product for the Apple computer corporation beginning on March 31 through April 4. In short, UPS will provide lift for Apple through a combination of the existing UPS air network along with five (5) calendar days of air subcontracting provided by Atlas Airlines.

Under the UPS/IPA contract, subcontracting is allowed for temporary volume surges defined as no more than 30-45 calendar days per year outside of peak—Article 1.D.1.c.(1).

UPS plans to utilize five of these days in conjunction with the Apple movement. Until today, UPS had not utilized any of its 30-45 subcontracting days for volume so far in 2010.

“We will closely monitor UPS subcontractor usage and will continue to make sure the Company remains in compliance with the collective bargaining agreement,” said IPA Scope Chair Luke Pyles.

Auger In 03-30-2010 12:55 PM

This sounds like a serious violation of scope. It's despicable that this caveat in the contract permits this sort of theft. I have a buddy in the bottom 300 who's about to have his life turned upside down and "Oops" is subcontracting work due to a surge in volume? How about keeping the bottom 300 on the payroll if there's that much business.

HercDriver130 03-30-2010 01:08 PM

How is it a violation of scope if its in the contract?

JustUnderPar 03-30-2010 02:06 PM

I dont think the "intent" of the CBA was to allow subcontractors, during a furlough, at any other time than peak?

Anyone read this a different way?

JustUnderPar 03-30-2010 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 786782)
How is it a violation of scope if its in the contract?

Not a violation of scope. But the use of contractors with a furlough going on sounds pretty fishy. Dont you agree??

HercDriver130 03-30-2010 03:19 PM

Absolutely.....I was just asking the poster above me how it was a violation of scope... Is pretty crappy but you know those mgt guys stay up nights finding loop holes in contracts to exploit.

"Intent" will buy you squat..... thats the problem.... I agree with you.. the intent envisioned by the union when they signed off on it was that it would be used as a last resort when all hands where on deck so to speak... problem is it does not appear it was spelled out exactly enough and some bean counter is going to exploit that loophole if at all possible.

Vman 03-31-2010 09:18 PM

In the event crewmembers are on furlough and the Company utilizes a subcontractor for the 30 to 45 day annual period provided in c.(1) above, the Company shall pay protect those crewmembers who in seniority order could have performed the flying provided: (i) The subcontractor is a carrier operating aircraft leased from the Company, (ii) the affected crewmembers have not already been recalled to work and are in training and (iii) the affected crewmember(s) has not refused recall. This paragraph shall not apply to common carriage movements. The number of crewmembers to be pay protected will be based on the number which would be necessary to operate the subcontractor’s route(s) under this Agreement.
d. When entering into subcontracts under paragraph c. above, the Company

Looks like some of us may get a Christmas Bonus...
I wonder about the "common carriage movement" portion though...

Freightpuppy 03-31-2010 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Vman (Post 787658)

Looks like some of us may get a Christmas Bonus...
I wonder about the "common carriage movement" portion though...
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Good luck with that one. I'm sure you'll have to grieve it before you see any money. They are jipping me on 4 hours of homestudy so I'm sure they won't just send you the money without a fight.

de727ups 03-31-2010 09:28 PM

Also, are any crewmember's "on furlough" between March 31st and April 4th? I would say nobody's "on furlough" until somebody's actually been furloughed. So far, I believe, there has only been an announcement of the intent to furlough.


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