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Thedude 07-21-2006 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by SkyHigh
I think he was just trying to help. Sometimes you gotta let go for a while. I have a few ex-coworkers who are at Tradewinds and they hate it to a huge degree. They are gone all the time and don't get paid much at all. Perhaps you should call everyone you know outside of aviation and do something else for a while? The first few days hurt like a MF but it gets better slowly. I have been sidelined for almost three years now and I am very glad I didn't allow myself to be tempted by any fly by night operators.

SKyHigh


Thats not completely true. I dont where you get fly by night since TDX has been around since 1967. On the 747 we are on the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off sked and I have to be gone more than 15 days. Skeds arent that bad but the flying down in South America gets old real quick. Pay is avg for the ACMI operators but I will say it is very low for overall 747 opeartors but then again I get $3/hr for per diem and that is continous. (I make more per diem in a month than a Mesa f/o makes on salary.) Plus a $10/hr override for each hour flown. Dont have to worry about a crash pad since all hotels are picked up.
I am not a company cheerleader but TDX is not the best place to work and its not the worst. If you need a place to hang you hat for a while til you move on or get recalled, there are worse places to be.

MD11Fr8Dog 07-21-2006 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver
WTF !!!!

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think redwave was being sarcastic!

redwave 07-22-2006 05:30 AM

MD11 Thank goodness someone can tell the difference--I thought I made it sarcastic enough that everyone would get it. We can get into a lotof discussions about military vs civ. I was taken aback by the post that military guys just walked into these neat airline jobs without having a real job!! Mine was posted in fun as I am one of those scummy guys who lucked out. Someday I'll get a real job. REDWAVE:eek:

Fedup--Hope that splains it better

fedupbusdriver 07-22-2006 07:46 AM

Must have had too many scotch and waters last night. I stand corrected.

dutch747 07-22-2006 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Humus1343
You must be s... H.., have you ever needed a job? Do you support a family? Have you ever thought you had it made? Do you always think that you are better than the person next to you? Man I dont want to sound hostile but the entire industry has tanked; are you immune? Can you contemplate that one day you could find your Emminance in a situation that thousands have found themselves? Could you? You cannot be that naive. Man I NEED A JOB, IS THAT SO WRONG. Can you offer anything but Arrogance/ Ignorance? Man please. We are in this together. Do not forget that! LOL. Humus


Tradewinds is definately a bottom feeder. They furlough frequently and I have heard from a lot of guys that work there that they have trouble getting a paycheck on a regular basis. The flying is spuradic, planes are falling apart, and the pay is terrible. They recently had a plane go off the end of the runway in S. America. If I were you I'd try Southern. Pay is not that good but they take care of their crews. Also I'd even look at Kollitta before Tradewinds. If your without choice or have an opportunity to get on with tradewinds than do what you have to do. Just keep in mind that you will probably get furloughed, and you won't be doing a lot of flying.

Lab Rat 07-22-2006 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Whaledriver101
Take any UPS post or response here with a grain. Most went to UPS from the military and never had a job or needed a job after getting lucky and getting on with UPS.

Dont let his response surprise you.

It is not luck, but who you know.

Humus1343 07-25-2006 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude
Thats not completely true. I dont where you get fly by night since TDX has been around since 1967. On the 747 we are on the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off sked and I have to be gone more than 15 days. Skeds arent that bad but the flying down in South America gets old real quick. Pay is avg for the ACMI operators but I will say it is very low for overall 747 opeartors but then again I get $3/hr for per diem and that is continous. (I make more per diem in a month than a Mesa f/o makes on salary.) Plus a $10/hr override for each hour flown. Dont have to worry about a crash pad since all hotels are picked up.
I am not a company cheerleader but TDX is not the best place to work and its not the worst. If you need a place to hang you hat for a while til you move on or get recalled, there are worse places to be.

Thanks, How about getting to and from work. Training? Insurance, is there a group policy? I spent 12yrs at what we lovingly called "the cream of the crap" nonsked and a brief time at a major. Brief enough that it does not scare me to work for another supplemental. Hell, things are changing with the supplemental carriers too, the last time I was hired by one it was over the phone. How about the Asian stuff? Thanks for your help. Trying to get Intel on short notice is a pain.


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