Fedex hiring in 2011
 

I heard from a UPS van driver that Fedex will be hiring next year, so it must be true. Anybody know how many?

170 in the first few months of the year, with a total of 300.

... if it were only true.

:D

4a2b
 

I think they will keep the 4a2b game going until it gets beyond painfull for them and then open the floodgates on hiring.

Goose17

FedEx will start hiring when some guys start retiring. That will be 5 years from when the retirement age was changed to 65.

I think they will hire while they are in 4a2b and rationalize some D.A. reason to justify it. And we will take it just like we have been taking it! :rolleyes:

D. Defined Exit from Section 4.A.2.b.

1. If SAM meets or exceeds 68/85 CH for two non-peak consecutive bid periods the minimum bid period guarantee shall return to the normal limits

SAM for May is 66:54. We'll be bought up to about 67 anyway starting Sep.

You be the judge. With the few retirements trickling in, I think we may exit this year. Wildcards are folks that sold back vacation last year fearing the worst taking it this year. Residual irritation with staying in 4a2b over a year without being paid SAM like the DC10 loafers got. It all adds up.

As for hiring -

2. If the Company hires a pilot(s) and adds the pilot(s) to the Master Seniority List, other than pursuant to a court order or arbitration award, the Company shall exit Section 4.A.2.b. effective with the Date of Hire.

Is this a delayed April Fools Day? You heard from a 5X driver?

:p

OK, who's got any insight on this rumor?

I've heard the verbiage "...other than pursant to a court order or arbitration award.." was added here because there is an outside chance that the Company may be "ordered", or perhaps "agree to", bring on all the Pro's who've been waiting on the sidelines during 4A2B (...beyond the 3 years specified in their contracts).

Thus, management actually could "hire" and add to our seniority list while staying in 4A2B.

Hmmm....I wonder how many Pro's would take an MD-11 to HKG right out of the gate, even with the current FDA package....???

Discuss!

Does Fedex require a resignation of seniority from all carriers that you currently have seniority numbers at. Soon, I'll have two.

Thanks.

FF

Yes, and they have become very strict on making sure you actually resign.

FF,

Sorry, but you just wouldn't enjoy it at FedEx. It's way too laid-back for you UPS guys to handle. You'd be constantly wondering when the shoe was going to fall, and would probably end up with some sort of facial tick or some other psychological issue. Regardless of what you read here, FedEx is a great place to work. OK guys, I've got my asbestos suit on, flame away.:D

JJ

Talk to a pro about the contract addendum FedEx tried to make all of them sign. Some signed it and some didn't. I think those that didn't might have a case for coming on during 4a2b.

Every time someone goes to HKG it makes me laugh. No one wants to take the hazardous surface GT but the company won't give crewmembers any "bank" if both pilots deviate and cancel the scheduled transportation. The train is apparently much safer. This must be a great cost center for the company to help pay out MBO bonuses. There is little incentive to make it better. On the bright side, management was so frightened by the GT I don't think they'll do it again. Nothing changed after their experience.

Some of the FOs are in the bottom 100. With upgrades slowly coming, I think they are out of pilots willing to go. They might have to take some pros hungry to come aboard if folks get out by bidding 757 FO.

Some poolies have been instructed to update times on their pilot profile.

... heard the same the other day...who knows ?!

I'll go to HKG. Anyone willing to sponsor a brown MD fo who's a wee bit tired of all the beatings? :)

I don't know...Call me crazy...But, for some reason I think hiring and upgrades will somehow coincide with contract negotiations. And, it will be as if the "Men in Black" will have flashed us.

Jay: Did you ever flashy-thing me?
Kay: No.
Jay: I ain't playing with you, K. Did you ever flashy-thing me?
Kay: No.:D

I guess I've gotten my hopes up a few times in the last 3 years, one more time shouldn't hurt :D...

Is this actually happening? Poolies are being called?

What is happening as far as contract negotiations?

BTW, you guys would probably be just as happy to see new-hires, as we would be to see you right? If us poolies are hired, it
means the end of 4a2b is that correct? Win-win situation :)

Hopefully out of the pool by 2011, or sooner.....my phone is on with the ringer on high!

CS.

In 5 years the 65ers are probably gonna just flow back to the panel.

Greedy herpes pilots - they never go away



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I'm sure some are pushing for the retirement age to be 70.

That resign form your previous airline thing cost me $80k. Rolled the dice and got stuck on the panel for 4 years. Might still work out in the long term, or not.

There are two issues here...one is an agreement to go under the NEW PRO Contract. The other is simply an addendum. Nobody signed the NEW CONTRACT but most did sign the new addendum.

About the addendum....the company wanted them to sign it to keep them FROM going to HKG and then getting furloughed. The company would then have to pay to move them there and back if furloughed...an expensive proposition.

Most signed it, a few did not. The summary of it simply says that they agree to the following:

1) You will be the first to be hired (before any external hiring).
2) You will be at the bottom of the seniority list.
3) You will be paid first year pay.
4) You will be the first to be furloughed.
5) You will be a MEM based 727 S/O.

The countdown begins
 

12/11/2007 house bill ups pilot retirement age to 65 (+ 5 years) = 12/11/2012

T-Minus 2 years 7 months and 14 days (remaining)..........But who's counting :D.

Originally posted by giggity:

In 5 years the 65ers are probably gonna just flow back to the panel.

There will be a panel in five?

727 is supposed to be gone by Dec 2015....however, there are more than a handful that could be flown until 2018 without having one of the more expensive MX checks.

And the "65ers" already started flowing to the back for their 3rd tour starting in Dec 09 ---- with a few more coming this year ---- check out the 727 training letter.

Wow, just wow. Have some pride folks. They were once wide body Captains and now want to end their careers at the panel? Not the memory I want to leave with. :eek:

At that age you don't have any memory!:rolleyes:

2A Off, 1B On and checked.

Early bird senior special at Luby's - checked.

Whats sad is the day you turn 65 the WB Capt pay stops and the S/O pay starts. Literally working for half pay....................A 25 year WB Capt A plan payout is $130k..........any panel sitters you know making that?

Remember, it's not about the money, it's about pride in a job well done...:rolleyes:

Someone pointed out to me that when they do retire, they sell their vacation back at S/O pay instead of WB C, and if they are getting excess sick, it is going into the account at S/O rates.

Maybe these guys need help using calculators. Sure seems that they are challenged by simple mathematics. :rolleyes:

You can't jumpseat to Brazil if you give up your gig. C'mon guys!

Oh yah sure...Real accurate!! I noticed how you conveniently left out that S/Os make the same per-diem as WB Capts. :D:rolleyes:

And that's why they have to work even longer as an S/O, to make up that lost pay. :confused:

You forgot to add preflight wrong aircraft then tap a nap while awaiting crew.

I think that's right.

Pre-Age 65: Heard about a WB Cap whose last leg was in the field (turned 60 on that day) and then DH the next day (60+ 1 day) back to the planet. All his Vac was paid at S/O pay. (note: he also thought they'd pay him the 686 CH sitting in his sick bank too). Lessons learned.