I was awarded a VTO and had three rdays carrying over from Aug and GWOE training. Any idea how protecting min days off or not will affect my schedule? If I ask for max BLG how many hours will I get, 85 or such plus my carryover or 85 minus the 3 days of carryover and minus the training. Also I bid the last VTO can I get reserve or will they say I am senior and give me trips. Thanks not used to sec lines.

Also If I have mil leave days will they build around those or just plop trips on those days and then drop them.

Wow.

1. Was your award VTO #25 out of 25 ? If so, it is the LINE that is built. Expect reserve.

2. Did NOT protect minimum days off?
You VTO will be built 3-R-Days of carryover PLUS some type of BLG. Without asking for max BLG, expect 96-106 hours (depending on your a/c & seat).

Seriously, expect 3 Carry-over R-Days + GWOE + 19 days of reserve.

Training will be days off training. The carry over will count toward min days off. If you put in mil leave, it will entirely be up to the schedular. If they are nice, they will build around it, if they are not so nice, they will count those as R days toward your blg.

I would wait to see what you got, then use your mil leave to manipulate the schedule. If you mil leave early you can have your blg adjusted so uncle Fred doesn't take away the following month.

Good luck

OK I will complicate it even more. If I am a SIBA Secondary line and get reserve am I a SIBA reserve? Are my carrover days also SIBA reserve even though they carried over from non siba month? Big difference in Domestic reserve and siba reserve. Thanks for the help it seems you cant figure it out til it happens to you.

I agree with Lindy.

If you are the last VTO, you will probably get reserve. See who got VTOs last month and look at their calendars. Of course they may have completely altered their trips, but it might give you some idea what you can expect. Again, I'd expect reserve, but if enough trips are left when it gets to you, you might get trips or a mix of trips and reserve.

Depends on what you want to do, but I'd bid min days off. Assuming you get reserve (and bid min days off), they will keep your 3 carryin days, schedule one day of GWOE, then schedule you 15 additional R days.

I'm not sure the above is 100% correct.

1. Even if you bid the last VTO (#25 out of 25) and you are the most senior VTO line holder, your VTO line will be built first. All VTO lines are built in seniority order regardless of the actual #VTO you bid.

2. Your line should be 3 Rdays + max blg (85hrs of trips) + GWOE

Well that's odd...The CBA says:

25.D.2. Secondary Line Construction

a. A sufficient number of secondary lines shall be published to cover trips anticipated to be dropped from regular lines and other open time that may be available.

b. Secondary lines shall be published as blank lines.

c. Secondary lines shall be constructed in numerical order following the processing of conflicts on regular lines, the assignment of trips for training and bid period processing as described in Section 25.E. (below).

Old rules (or interpretation).

Contract 2006 fixed that and VTO's are built in number order now like they always should have been.