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This statute only requires that you set up a meeting with a minor (under age of consent) for the purpose of sexual activity. Money is not an element. You do not even have to show up for the meeting.
Bottom line (no pun intended): If you believe (or have reason to believe) the other person is underage and you try to meet them for sex, it is a violation of this statute. |
Originally Posted by navigatro
(Post 904272)
This statute only requires that you set up a meeting with a minor (under age of consent) for the purpose of sexual activity. Money is not an element. You do not even have to show up for the meeting.
Bottom line (no pun intended): If you believe (or have reason to believe) the other person is underage and you try to meet them for sex, it is a violation of this statute. So, let me see if I have this straight...the accused doesn't even have to show up to a meeting to be found guilty? I'm no Perry Mason, but that doesn't sound right. How are you going to prove the intentions of the accused? What would stop the accused from saying that the whole conversation was not serious, that he thought it one of his friends playing a joke on him? He could say he was not serious, because he didn't show up for the meeting. I know that didn't happen in this particular case, but surely it has happened in others. Seems like the prosecution could lose a lot of cases that way. I'd really like to read those transcripts though. |
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
(Post 904397)
So, let me see if I have this straight...the accused doesn't even have to show up to a meeting to be found guilty? I'm no Perry Mason, but that doesn't sound right. How are you going to prove the intentions of the accused? What would stop the accused from saying that the whole conversation was not serious, that he thought it one of his friends playing a joke on him? He could say he was not serious, because he didn't show up for the meeting.
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Originally Posted by Night_Hawk
(Post 904399)
To tag on the not showing up, how about someone else was using my computer?
Sting operations like to have the suspect call the minor on the telephone, so they can record the person's voice. This helps their case, but it could also clear an innocent person, such as in your example. It does bring up a good point of only letting those you trust use your computer, and also using a secure wireless router. However, These cases are generally very easy to prove, and do not go to trial (the defendant pleads guilty) because of the electronic evidence trail. Typically, first time offenders receive probation, must register as a sex offender, and are prohibited from using a computer. Some do go to prison, though. You should not "jokingly" solicit minors for sex, just like you should not joke about bombs in the airport security line, or solicit a prostitute (or undercover officer) for sex, or joke about fire in a movie theater, or lots of other things. The law presumes that you are serious about your intention to have sex with a minor, because of the necessity to protect those at highest risk of exploitation. |
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
(Post 904397)
. Seems like the prosecution could lose a lot of cases that way.
I'd really like to read those transcripts though. Check out the Perverted Justice website (that is the organization that assists the "Predator" show by providing actors and technical help). They have transcripts from actual cases, and they are disturbing. |
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
(Post 904397)
So, let me see if I have this straight...the accused doesn't even have to show up to a meeting to be found guilty? I'm no Perry Mason, but that doesn't sound right.. (3) The solicitation of a minor through electronic communication under subsection (1) of this section shall be prima facie evidence of the person's intent to commit the offense even if the meeting did not occur. (4) This section shall apply to electronic communications originating within or received within the Commonwealth. (5) A violation of this section is punishable as a Class D felony. |
Lucky the Feds are not involved. 10 year min.
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Originally Posted by navigatro
(Post 904410)
Check out the Perverted Justice website (that is the organization that assists the "Predator" show by providing actors and technical help). They have transcripts from actual cases, and they are disturbing.
Most (but certainly not all) of those guys didn't seem like the sharpest knives in the drawer. That's why I'm surprised and maybe a little skeptical that another pilot has been caught up in this again, especially when the other guy was from the same carrier. |
Originally Posted by Night_Hawk
(Post 904399)
To tag on the not showing up, how about someone else was using my computer?
Then you'd have to give him the name of that person. |
Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
(Post 904532)
Most (but certainly not all) of those guys didn't seem like the sharpest knives in the drawer. That's why I'm surprised and maybe a little skeptical that another pilot has been caught up in this again, especially when the other guy was from the same carrier. It cracks me up how pilots think they are so much smarter, better, etc. (I am a pilot BTW.) Yes, there were a bunch of idiots caught on that show, but there were also Doctors, a Rabbi, Police officers, Teachers, and other professionals. |
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