Sick leave and mini-RLG (fedex)
03-14-2011 | 06:57 AM
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I am specifically talking about a custom or secondary line that consists of both R days and trips.
I did read the grievance settlement, but this individual had a month consisting entirely of R days.
This has to be a change, even though the union says it codifies current practice. Another give back.
I did read the grievance settlement, but this individual had a month consisting entirely of R days.
This has to be a change, even though the union says it codifies current practice. Another give back.
Looks like we lost it, and even if we wanted to change it via bargaining, the Company rarely wants to give ground back they won through arbitration (i know i wouldn't)
Give back? looks like we already did and to fight about it more is once again a lost cause. Call it what you want, same result. read the last 2 pages.
03-14-2011 | 07:28 AM
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sorry to disagree, but if you read the award from the grievance, it highlights the issue (whether from a vacation reduced number of r days or a mini-rlg from a secondary or custom line) the key thing the arbitrator ruled on was being sick for "all" of the r days. He said that is the only factor and thus the pilot was subject to 14.B.2.c.i.
Looks like we lost it, and even if we wanted to change it via bargaining, the Company rarely wants to give ground back they won through arbitration (i know i wouldn't)
Give back? looks like we already did and to fight about it more is once again a lost cause. Call it what you want, same result. read the last 2 pages.
Looks like we lost it, and even if we wanted to change it via bargaining, the Company rarely wants to give ground back they won through arbitration (i know i wouldn't)
Give back? looks like we already did and to fight about it more is once again a lost cause. Call it what you want, same result. read the last 2 pages.
03-14-2011 | 07:47 AM
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sorry to disagree, but if you read the award from the grievance, it highlights the issue (whether from a vacation reduced number of r days or a mini-rlg from a secondary or custom line) the key thing the arbitrator ruled on was being sick for "all" of the r days. He said that is the only factor and thus the pilot was subject to 14.B.2.c.i.
Looks like we lost it, and even if we wanted to change it via bargaining, the Company rarely wants to give ground back they won through arbitration (i know i wouldn't)
Give back? looks like we already did and to fight about it more is once again a lost cause. Call it what you want, same result. read the last 2 pages.
Looks like we lost it, and even if we wanted to change it via bargaining, the Company rarely wants to give ground back they won through arbitration (i know i wouldn't)
Give back? looks like we already did and to fight about it more is once again a lost cause. Call it what you want, same result. read the last 2 pages.
Have you ever seen a "hybrid" secondary (or custom) line that consists of BOTH trips and R days? The R days make a mini-RLG. It happens often in the MD-11, not sure about your airplane. This clearly was not the case in the grievance. This is a change in our contract, not a codification.
Another give back.
03-14-2011 | 08:53 AM
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I read the grievance again. This individual had a line that consisted entirely of R days.
Have you ever seen a "hybrid" secondary (or custom) line that consists of BOTH trips and R days? The R days make a mini-RLG. It happens often in the MD-11, not sure about your airplane. This clearly was not the case in the grievance. This is a change in our contract, not a codification.
Another give back.
Have you ever seen a "hybrid" secondary (or custom) line that consists of BOTH trips and R days? The R days make a mini-RLG. It happens often in the MD-11, not sure about your airplane. This clearly was not the case in the grievance. This is a change in our contract, not a codification.
Another give back.
If you have a mini-rlg if, and the TA is passed, when you call in sick for all of the R days you will debited the entire mini-rlg is the process.
ALPA lying to us again! Fire them all and hire some people with backbone and integrity. Elections are coming up soon again for these Officer golden parachute jobs, seriously thinking about going after one as soon as my lobotomy scar is healed.
03-14-2011 | 08:58 AM
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03-14-2011 | 09:04 AM
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understand your concern! I am done with talking about it myself, give back or not. I am not trying to explain it away or justify at all. It is going to be this way if passed, even if it is or not this way today for secondary/custom lines.
If you have a mini-rlg if, and the TA is passed, when you call in sick for all of the R days you will debited the entire mini-rlg is the process.
ALPA lying to us again! Fire them all and hire some people with backbone and integrity. Elections are coming up soon again for these Officer golden parachute jobs, seriously thinking about going after one as soon as my lobotomy scar is healed.
If you have a mini-rlg if, and the TA is passed, when you call in sick for all of the R days you will debited the entire mini-rlg is the process.
ALPA lying to us again! Fire them all and hire some people with backbone and integrity. Elections are coming up soon again for these Officer golden parachute jobs, seriously thinking about going after one as soon as my lobotomy scar is healed.
Well, are they codifying past practice or not? Simple question.
03-14-2011 | 10:00 AM
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understand your concern! I am done with talking about it myself, give back or not. I am not trying to explain it away or justify at all. It is going to be this way if passed, even if it is or not this way today for secondary/custom lines.
If you have a mini-rlg if, and the TA is passed, when you call in sick for all of the R days you will debited the entire mini-rlg is the process.
ALPA lying to us again! Fire them all and hire some people with backbone and integrity. Elections are coming up soon again for these Officer golden parachute jobs, seriously thinking about going after one as soon as my lobotomy scar is healed.
If you have a mini-rlg if, and the TA is passed, when you call in sick for all of the R days you will debited the entire mini-rlg is the process.
ALPA lying to us again! Fire them all and hire some people with backbone and integrity. Elections are coming up soon again for these Officer golden parachute jobs, seriously thinking about going after one as soon as my lobotomy scar is healed.
03-14-2011 | 10:05 AM
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ALPA answered it, codify. Depends on if you like or believe the answer. Not my answer, our Associations position. In this case I see the issue that way as well, we do have attorney's who are on the payroll.
03-14-2011 | 10:10 AM
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)How about PROF in the MD? Lets start a technical debate on that? or FLAG FAR's?
what say you? dealers choice, I am game.
03-14-2011 | 10:15 AM
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You forgot leverage is off your list remember? Us "military guys" dont discuss FARs.
The only one I know says something or another about alcohol.
