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Freighter Captain 09-09-2006 11:34 PM

FedEx narrowbody pilot %
 
Quick question for those at FedEx--what % of your pilots are on the 727?

130JDrvr 09-10-2006 01:17 AM

Approx 1157 out of almost 4700.

Past....

fr8rcaptain 09-10-2006 07:45 AM

UPS Joke
 

Originally Posted by 130JDrvr (Post 59438)
Approx 1157 out of almost 4700.

Past....

There are several pilots at UPS that would call your two tiered pay scale a "HIDDEN B-SCALE!":eek:

(I apologize to any non-UPSer who doesn't get this joke)

Freighter Captain 09-10-2006 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by 130JDrvr (Post 59438)
Approx 1157 out of almost 4700.

Past....

Thanks for the reply. That looks like 25% of your pilots are on the hidden b-scale then ;) Southwest 737 pilots make more per hour; has anyone else noticed?

Diesel 10 09-10-2006 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Freighter Captain (Post 59501)
Thanks for the reply. That looks like 25% of your pilots are on the hidden b-scale then ;) Southwest 737 pilots make more per hour; has anyone else noticed?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but SWA doesn't have any Year 5 captains. For that matter, neither does UPS.

FoxHunter 09-10-2006 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Freighter Captain (Post 59501)
Thanks for the reply. That looks like 25% of your pilots are on the hidden b-scale then ;) Southwest 737 pilots make more per hour; has anyone else noticed?

Southwest 737 pilots get paid 90 hours for 90 hours flown, Fedex pilots fly 40 hours and get paid for 90.:D

Diesel 10 09-10-2006 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 59536)
Southwest 737 pilots get paid 90 hours for 90 hours flown, Fedex pilots fly 40 hours and get paid for 90.:D

Great point, FoxHunter.

I wouldn't trade my job flying heavies all over the world for a lifelong 737 job working my tail off, no matter what somebody paid me. Not dissing SWA, just talking about reality.

Gunter 09-10-2006 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 59536)
Southwest 737 pilots get paid 90 hours for 90 hours flown, Fedex pilots fly 40 hours and get paid for 90.:D

That explains why FedEx narrowbody guys make less per hour. FedEx crewmembers make 6 hrs on the rig and most SWA crews get 6.5 to 7.5 actual. Not just more per hour, more hours too....But that is a different story.

Most FedEx NB crewmembers are relying on the rig. I believe they would be able to negotiate a higher rate if they flew more freight (hours) per day.

Before you get all uptight about cargo making more money---Sure it does...Um...maybe. Cargo World states international pax generate twice the revenue per pound than international cargo does. I know the planes can hold more weight in cargo per cubic foot than passengers, but you get the idea. It's not an incredible difference. FedEx is getting to be more and more UPS like with domestic freight. More is going by ground this year than last year (marginally).

It boils down to how much revenue do you generate when "on the clock". If you make enough your pay can go up.

So if you like all the dead time during hub turns or deadheading, be happy with the lower pay scale. Not a bad thing at all. Maybe FedEx ALPA was crazy like a fox for not asking for higher narrowbody payrates.

R1200RT 09-10-2006 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Freighter Captain (Post 59501)
Thanks for the reply. That looks like 25% of your pilots are on the hidden b-scale then ;) Southwest 737 pilots make more per hour; has anyone else noticed?


Yea, try to find their Bfund, Afund, ability to upgrade to a higher paying position. But you are right our pay should be better than we are going to get.

Busdrivr 09-10-2006 04:12 PM

"Yea, try to find their Bfund, Afund,"

I think my A fund retirement of $130,000 per year is worth giving up 50 cents or so per hour.


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