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Old 09-11-2006 | 06:16 AM
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I'll try to find out today.
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Old 09-11-2006 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by R1200RT
It is BS no doubt but it says to or from his BASE. So when you buy a ticket to Memphis you'd be taxed not deviating on a trip. Still could be thousands of dollars a year depending on where you commute from.
Some of the details are starting to smell. I guess the F/Os not flying extra may not have been enough. Maybe we Captains with need to step up next time ... either after a no vote or next contract. My gut is saying NO right now but I'm going to wait until I hear more details.

lets vote no and drag this on another couple years because you wish to commute...wait u just moved to memphis so you can make extra money...the only things that is starting to smell is you after being trapped in the md-11 for 9 hours...hahahahahah...well have a safe trip home...yeah..i know..the boyz got smoked!!!
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Old 09-11-2006 | 07:30 AM
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Another thought....if the company now considers this income.....does it get included in the B fund calculation? Seems like it should since "eligible prior monthly earnings" would seem to include all "taxable compensation"
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Old 09-11-2006 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMark
lets vote no and drag this on another couple years !!!
I'm with you CaptainMark! I think this is the smartest thing you have written on here. Only thing, I'd bet you it would take about one month. We'd still be at the table if the company didn't want the contract done. And as you said we owe almost all of credit to UPS and our F/Os. Thanks to both, perhaps after a no vote our weaka$$ captains will step up and make a stand.

Dude you are getting smarter every day.
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Old 09-11-2006 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sandman2122
but it's a "deviation travel expense".

Maybe the folks will explain this one during the road show.
How is a ticket from home to MEM, LAX, or ANC a deviation travel expense?
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Old 09-11-2006 | 09:57 AM
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beats the heck out of me.....by their definition, I suppose any company $$ that is used to get to your base will be taxed.

This probably includes the deviaiton $$ I spend on taxi's to/from the hometown FedEx ramp when I prefer to leave my truck at home - with gas still at $2.50 a gallon.

I just used @ $350 to travel home after a sim, I'll catch a NW jumpseat next time - the jets are only 2/3 's full...........

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Old 09-11-2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sandman2122
I just used @ $350 to travel home after a sim, I'll catch a NW jumpseat next time - the jets are only 2/3 's full...........
We have a similar problem in our agreement. Not so much taxes, but if we are scheduled for a deadhead on a sunday, and we don't fly til monday we have to use that ticket on sunday or else forfit 3 hours of pay. Similar to your tax situation, it creates a disincentive to use a company provided ticket, and an incentive to ride on someone's jumpseat instead. When you do this you are robbing that airline of revenue that should be theirs. It will only be a matter of time before the industry catches on to what some UPS pilots are doing and if you fall into the same trap, you guys will get busted and stand to lose your interline agreements. Be careful of the thinking that you display in your post.
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Old 09-11-2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
How is a ticket from home to MEM, LAX, or ANC a deviation travel expense?
It is not really, very surprised they agreed to buy them in the first place. It is actually a paid commute, taxable according to the IRS.
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Old 09-11-2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
It is not really, very surprised they agreed to buy them in the first place. It is actually a paid commute, taxable according to the IRS.
Depends on how you look at it..................
Whats the Difference between Deadheading from MEM to EWR to start a trip and DHing from home DEN to EWR to start the same trip. Why should one be taxable and the other not?
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Old 09-11-2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Depends on how you look at it..................
Whats the Difference between Deadheading from MEM to EWR to start a trip and DHing from home DEN to EWR to start the same trip. Why should one be taxable and the other not?
I don't think the DEN to EWR would be taxable. It's the DEN to MEM that would be taxable.
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