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Laughing_Jakal 10-13-2011 09:56 AM

Iphone or Droid for FDX
 
Droid phone or Iphone? anyone jailbroke an Iphone 4 to use the wifi hotspot?

iarapilot 10-13-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 1069004)
Droid phone or Iphone? anyone jailbroke an Iphone 4 to use the wifi hotspot?

They both are great phones. A matter of personal preference, I would say.

I myself like Android. Works fine for me. Not tied to itunes and a lot more freedom of usage. That is, unless you jailbreak the iphone.

appDude 10-13-2011 01:19 PM

Many users have told me it is worth getting the iPhone just to be able to run Fx Cal. Sorry for the shameless plug :) And several of my users have told me they have jailbroken a 4 to tether without paying AT&T.

MD10PLT 10-13-2011 02:16 PM

I have an iphone and would drop it and get a droid in a minute, just for the tethering feature.

EPIRB 10-13-2011 02:45 PM

Verizon Iphone has option for a personal hotspot. $20/month. Works great.
Still can do Wi-Fi if you choose.

MaydayMark 10-13-2011 05:31 PM

I have a Verizon Droid X (phone got great reviews) ... sort of wish I had an iPhone so that I could use KB's FxCal program (sure do wish I could get him to do a Droid version!!!). Would be glad to pay a good shareware fee :eek:

Laughing_Jakal 10-13-2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 1069243)
I have a Verizon Droid X (phone got great reviews) ... sort of wish I had an iPhone so that I could use KB's FxCal program (sure do wish I could get him to do a Droid version!!!). Would be glad to pay a good shareware fee :eek:

me too.......

mjaair 10-13-2011 08:05 PM

I use pdanet to connect my droid (also available for iphone) to my laptop. There is a one time fee of 15 dollars and works great. I can even stream videos.

Gunter 10-13-2011 09:18 PM

Heard iOS update has bricked some iPhones. Don't risk it. Get a Droid.

IslanderDriver 10-13-2011 10:06 PM


Heard iOS update has bricked some iPhones. Don't risk it. Get a Droid.
Or wait till they get the bugs worked out. I learned my lesson with updating my iPhone 3G to 4.0 right away. Patience grasshopper!

HIFLYR 10-14-2011 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by appDude (Post 1069132)
Many users have told me it is worth getting the iPhone just to be able to run Fx Cal. Sorry for the shameless plug :) And several of my users have told me they have jailbroken a 4 to tether without paying AT&T.

Great APP
Thanks

Magenta Line 10-14-2011 06:10 AM

I love my AT&T iPhone and hope to get a 4Gs today.... I know, "patience grasshopper..."

An MD guy, I like having the ability to use the phone internationally. I would be interested in what other guys use internationally and their service provider plus costs.

dspilot 10-14-2011 06:21 AM

I have the iPhone 4 jailbroken and used as a wireless hotspot. No complaints here. Actually using my iPad tethered to my phone as I type this. It would be nice to be able to use flash player sometimes though.

appDude 10-14-2011 09:28 AM

Another consideration. I think the iPad is still the premier pad/tablet and in particular the premier aviation pad/tablet. So even if your phone analysis is a toss up or even slightly favors a droid for some reason, it would be much easier to live with one product set for buying apps and syncing personal info if you plan to buy an iPad at some point in the future. (And thanks for all the compliments on FxCal)

CloudSailor 10-14-2011 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by appDude (Post 1069530)
..... (And thanks for all the compliments on FxCal)

appDude,

I'll personally guarantee many more compliments on FxCal when you develop it for us Android users ;) (I would have the iPhone for just that app, but am on Sprint, with too good of a deal to give up...)

Laughing_Jakal 10-14-2011 12:04 PM

Iphones available today at Sprint.

This is the reason for my question. My droid busted the usb pins, can't charge and is basically dead.

KnightFlyer 10-14-2011 02:32 PM

I love my new 4S. Get the iPhone and don't look back.

PastV1 10-14-2011 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 1069630)
Iphones available today at Sprint.

This is the reason for my question. My droid busted the usb pins, can't charge and is basically dead.

iPhone.....

TheBaron 10-15-2011 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 1069630)
Iphones available today at Sprint.

This is the reason for my question. My droid busted the usb pins, can't charge and is basically dead.

A week after I got my Droid I was praying for the next 103 weeks to pass quickly so I could get a new phone. Now I'm two years older, which sucks, but I get my new iPhone this week.

purpledog 10-16-2011 06:09 AM

iPhone for sure. With iCloud it automatically updates all your computers when you change any contacts, music, pics etc..pretty slick. Also Siri is pretty amazing.

Daniel Larusso 10-16-2011 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal (Post 1069630)
Iphones available today at Sprint.

This is the reason for my question.

I just had to make the same choice as well since Sprint added the iPhone. I was coming from another platform and narrowed it down to Samsung Galaxy S2 and the iPhone 4s. I'm not sure that you can really go terribly wrong with either, but in the end I went with the iPhone. If you check out the 'fanboy' websites/forums, you'll tend to find the Droid guys hate all things Apple and constantly spout off tech specs, while the Apple peeps often don't seem to know much about specs and simply keep saying the iPhone 'just works'. Honestly as operating systems, I think they're both worse than what I'm coming off of (webOS), but the market has spoken there. I found the specs to be pretty close so I just went and played with phones in the store.

Ultimately I went with the iPhone because: I like to be able to put my phone in my shirt pocket at work and while the Droids are very light they are aircraft carrier size; like most Sprint customers I do not live in a 4G area so theoretical data speed advantage of the Droids isn't there in reality and Sprint will begin shuttering WiMax in favor of LTE next year; I have other Apple devices making syncing easier than Droid although it's not hard on Droid; iOS 5 gets rid of a lot of people's complaints; Apple seems to have a better accessory assortment because there are simply so many Droid handsets to cover; while neither are as easy to Jailbreak/Root as webOs which is manufacturer approved and supported, the process for Apple devices seems far less 'techy/involved' than the Droid process which works for me.

The final kicker for me was apps. Both devices have a great selection, but my bet is that the iPhone will have the better selection of pilot specific apps like Fx Cal. This isn't meant to be a dig at our native developers as it's their time, choice and business imo, but anyone who's read this board has seen the reaction when people ask for a Droid, Windows, or Mac version of popular programs for FedEx pilots. You see the same thing if you look at the reactions from the guys who develop other aviation programs around the web like LogbookPro or APDL. The common denominator to me is that they're pretty much all developed by pilots and knowing 'how we do' the odds of the current opinions changing in the future seem slim to me. So I figured I'd just try and position myself to be able to have whatever the next 'greatest pilot app that I never even thought but can't live without' is. Besides Sprint has a 14 day return policy anyway so if I don't like my 4s I can just return it and grab a S2 plus a microSD card.

Tuck 10-16-2011 03:32 PM

I think the Droid is a better phone than the Iphone - I know plenty of people that have owned both and all of them prefer the Droid. That being said, FX CAL is great and is only available on the iphone. I hate AT&T but love being able to use it int'l. Was just on a trip and ran into a snag and being able to turn it on int'l was extremely helpful - even if it cost a lot. Do any Droids work int'l (and I mean more than just China)?

xjtguy 10-16-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 1070594)
Do any Droids work int'l (and I mean more than just China)?


I'm probably wrong, but I don't believe it's a WebOS vs. Apple OS vs. Android thing, etc for what works where overseas as much as it is phone type network capability.

In other words, a phone that's running on a quad band/GS technology vs. CDMA.

I thought I've talked to guys on T-mobile that have coverage in various parts of the world, just not sure if it's as extensive as what the agreements that ATT has worldwide though.

matty 10-16-2011 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 1070594)
I think the Droid is a better phone than the Iphone - I know plenty of people that have owned both and all of them prefer the Droid. That being said, FX CAL is great and is only available on the iphone. I hate AT&T but love being able to use it int'l. Was just on a trip and ran into a snag and being able to turn it on int'l was extremely helpful - even if it cost a lot. Do any Droids work int'l (and I mean more than just China)?

Well...I've owned both and iPhone wins hands down. I own nothing else Apple...just the phone and it does just work.

FXDX 10-18-2011 06:56 PM

A sort of related question for those using Macs for a recently converted if you would please.

Using Safari and checking open time, each time I check on a trip and then try to go back to view the list of open time trips, the computer makes me resend the data every time, causing another ping on the open time counter. Using Firefox and a PC it would just go back to the previous page without actually pinging open time again.

Is there some setting I can adjust to make Safari just go to the last page viewed (open time) without having to resend the request?

Thanks in advance for any help for the iNob!

FXDX 10-18-2011 07:03 PM

Oh yeah, just got an iPhone a few months ago, wished I had waited for the 4s so I could have kept Sprint. I ended up having to switch to AT&T and although all my neighbors and friends who have AT&T said it was ok, I have had more dropped calls in a few months than I had in over 15 years with Sprint.

It will be interesting to see how the coverage works out for folks who pick up the iPhone with Sprint.

All that said I love the iPhone, glad to have switched even with the dropped calls. I tried a couple other Sprint phones that other people had and none were as easy to use at the iPhone, especially since I had been using an iPod touch for a couple of years.

I would get the iPhone.

appDude 10-19-2011 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by FXDX (Post 1071520)
A sort of related question for those using Macs for a recently converted if you would please.

Using Safari and checking open time, each time I check on a trip and then try to go back to view the list of open time trips, the computer makes me resend the data every time, causing another ping on the open time counter. Using Firefox and a PC it would just go back to the previous page without actually pinging open time again.

Is there some setting I can adjust to make Safari just go to the last page viewed (open time) without having to resend the request?

Thanks in advance for any help for the iNob!

Just open the trips in a new tab. RightClick will open a link in a new tab. Sometimes I have 20 or more tabs open and go through one by one and close the tabs I am not interested in. Command W will close a tab. Learn a few keyboard shortcuts and this is a really fast easy process!

MD11Fr8Dog 10-19-2011 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by appDude (Post 1071639)
Just open the trips in a new tab. RightClick will open a link in a new tab. Sometimes I have 20 or more tabs open and go through one by one and close the tabs I am not interested in. Command W will close a tab. Learn a few keyboard shortcuts and this is a really fast easy process!

Or just use BidX? :cool:

geeitup1 10-19-2011 07:13 AM

Droid vs. Iphone
 
I've been a Verizon Droid user but made the switch to the iPhone4S this last Friday. I returned it yesterday and am very happy. Really comes down to how you use the phone. One thing not being mentioned is Navigation capability. The Droid's turn-by-turn Google navigation is simply amazing and the most useful app I have seen on either phone. I couldn't believe the joke of a nav app that Google gave the iPhone, and Mapquest, while turn-by-turn, is crappy too. And I haven't read good things about Verizon's subscription nav app. The iPhone does have a nice display, and while the screen is smaller than the Droid's, it seems to re-size text very well and so the (lack of) screen size doesn't seem to be a limitation. Beyond that, it was easy to use, except I prefer the Droid's "back" and "menu" buttons. The Siri app, like many IPhone apps, seems to me to be one of those "hey look what my phone can do" things that you don't actually use. Most of us control freak pilots would prefer to avoid the frustration of not having the Siri app do what we intended. As far as worldwide, I have never had an iPhone user have coverage I didn't on my Droid, and I'm talking some "exotic" locales (Afghanastan, Africa, Stan-Land, etc.). BTW, I am very happy with Verizon.
So I got the Droid 3, to replace my Droid 2. The Droid 3 is much lighter, has a better display, and a better hard keypad, than the Droid 2. Comparing the IPhone and the Droid 3 side by side, you don't notice the slight larger size of the Droid, you notice the much larger screen of the Droid, and the hard keypad....
But to each their own...

Doogs 10-19-2011 11:15 AM

Two recommendations: find out what your friends and colleagues use - the ones the will be around when you have questions. If everybody in your crash pad has an Android phone , that may be enough right there. Also, find out which apps you'd like to use. These aren't really phones so much as pocket computers, so, for example, if FxCal is the key app then you want an iPhone. The apps are going to make the phone more than specs or operating system.

Carriers aren't an issue for the iPhone anymore; I heard today that even Cellular South is getting the iPhone, too. All iPhone 4S are CDMA and GSM, so even a Sprint iPhone should be able to accept a foreign SIM card.

xjtguy 10-19-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Doogs (Post 1071889)
All iPhone 4S are CDMA and GSM, so even a Sprint iPhone should be able to accept a foreign SIM card.

Interesting, the 4S has the capability to run BOTH technologies? That's quite a step as I believe the regular 4 model it's just one or the other.

iarapilot 10-19-2011 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Doogs (Post 1071889)
Two recommendations: find out what your friends and colleagues use - the ones the will be around when you have questions. If everybody in your crash pad has an Android phone , that may be enough right there. Also, find out which apps you'd like to use. These aren't really phones so much as pocket computers, so, for example, if FxCal is the key app then you want an iPhone. The apps are going to make the phone more than specs or operating system.

Carriers aren't an issue for the iPhone anymore; I heard today that even Cellular South is getting the iPhone, too. All iPhone 4S are CDMA and GSM, so even a Sprint iPhone should be able to accept a foreign SIM card.


But I bet it will be sim locked, unless you JB it.

Sike 10-19-2011 11:19 PM

Wait a few more weeks for the forthcoming Samsung Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.0.

MX727 10-20-2011 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by iarapilot (Post 1072215)
But I bet it will be sim locked, unless you JB it.

I believe Sprint and Verizon have both stated that the sim will be unlocked.

I also read that at least the initial 4S that were bought without a contract from an Apple store, where unlocked.

iarapilot 10-20-2011 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by MX727 (Post 1072291)
I believe Sprint and Verizon have both stated that the sim will be unlocked.

I also read that at least the initial 4S that were bought without a contract from an Apple store, where unlocked.

True; all non contract iphones are sim unlocked. Getting a contract one, on the other hand, is impossible to unlock. At least on ATT.

appDude 11-04-2011 05:14 AM

Real nice Computerworld article on tethering:

Wi-Fi tethering 101: Use a smartphone as a mobile hotspot - Computerworld

And to reiterate, I believe this to be a neutral for Droid vs iPhone....
Both do it out of the box, both can be configured to not pay your carrier their dues if you choose....
I have AT&T $45 for 4Gig and share that between MacBookAir,iPad,iPhone. Tethering also allows me to share my international $25 for 50meg between all three devices as needed. Very handy. (Just be careful if you are tethering your Mac/PC to an international plan, as many processes check stuff in the background and can eat up your plan)

CloudSailor 11-04-2011 10:45 AM

appDude,
You've probably answered this already, but I can't recall...
Are you planning on developing a droid version of FxCal? If so, when?
Thanks.

MaydayMark 11-04-2011 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 1079932)

Are you planning on developing a droid version of FxCal? If so, when?
Thanks.


I vote for a Droid version also ... please?

Airbusdriver 11-04-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by MX727 (Post 1072291)
I believe Sprint and Verizon have both stated that the sim will be unlocked.

I also read that at least the initial 4S that were bought without a contract from an Apple store, where unlocked.

I am a Sprint customer. If I buy an unlocked Apple iPhone 3GS 8GB Smartphone, will it work with my Sprint plan/system?:confused:

My Blackberry just does not get it done.

appDude 11-04-2011 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Airbusdriver (Post 1080001)
I am a Sprint customer. If I buy an unlocked Apple iPhone 3GS 8GB Smartphone, will it work with my Sprint plan/system?:confused:

My Blackberry just does not get it done.

iPhone 3Gs is GSM only (no Sprint)
iPhone 4s is the only phone to work on Sprint


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