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Originally Posted by Magenta Line (Post 67492)

Ditto all of the above.... I've seen it all and it p*sses me off! Senior Capts bid the lines because they're no brainers and other A$$wipe Senior Capts bid the lines just to be A$$es.

Bottom line: We were STOOPID to get rid of Capts as RFO pairings. I hope those lines are here till I retire... why you ask? Because it means more Capts on the Capt seniority list. Hopefully, I won't have to explain that benefit.
Personally, I prefer whoever gets the award is PIC. But it looks like we're doing it ALPA's way now......

Who is WE? im regards to being too stupid to get rid of these pairings?
ALPA doesn't have any say, in other words there is no Contractual language to prevent it and Why would you want to prevent it?

I agree with you, I wish all RFO's were CAPTs. It means more CAPTs and shows that the Company is willing to pay $200 plus an hour for FO's.

Every Airline has their A$$ Holes. We are no exception, but the number of them is very small.

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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r (Post 67424)

Question for NW or UAL Delta and UPS or any other LONG Haul folks?

When you folks operate a ultra Long haul flight (i.e double crew )

Do most of you have 1 CAP and 3 RFO's?

If you have 2 CAPT's and 2 FO's, how is this handled at your specific company?

Do these crews stay together for the return trip or do they separte and operate different trips once at the overseas destination?

Does one crew do the Take-off and the other crew do the landing? and how is the PIC determined?

The brand spanking new contract we just ratified allows >12 hour flights on the MD11, so UPS hasn't actually scheduled anything that would require a double crew yet. We are all have the same questions you have...Time will tell.

I know someone posted a link to the FEDEX TA. I couldn't find the post. Does anyone have a link?? I'd appreciate it....trying to find some light reading while waiting for KD to call.
Geauxfly

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Originally Posted by geauxfly (Post 67613)

I know someone posted a link to the FEDEX TA. I couldn't find the post. Does anyone have a link?? I'd appreciate it....trying to find some light reading while waiting for KD to call.
Geauxfly

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/optio...Itemid,61.html

Thanks for the link KnightFlyer! Appreciate the light reading.
Geauxfly

Key to the TA passing....

It ain't the pay...

It ain't the retro pay...

It ain't the trip rig...

Scope/retirement/agency shop? Nah...

But from now on by Gosh...if we are hub turning...we get a MINI-SNACK!

A mini-snack! Hot dayum!

Per Diem: 2 dollars per hour.

Signing Bonus: 100 million dollars.

Having the coffee delivered to the jet: Priceless!

FJ

Watching some of the retired O-6/O-7's carrying the jug of shame........

That was priceless!

Having the prior Navy enlisted Capt tell the retired O-7 AF RFO to get him a ****ing cup of coffee was pretty good to. :) By the way, the General deserved it...

Past...

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Originally Posted by 130JDrvr (Post 67850)

There are about 30 nonmember Herpes SOs. They should be exempted from the new coffee jug rule - they should have to carry 6 (or as many as will fit) full jugs in their "Jepps" bags and 2-3 in their other hand.