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F9forME 10-20-2006 12:17 PM

Focus Air Cargo
 
Does anyone have any information they can share about FocusAir?

dutch747 10-21-2006 08:04 AM

There have been a lot of post about Focus Air. Damn, use the search engine!

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...ight=Focus+Air

F9forME 10-21-2006 09:19 AM

Thanks Dutch747 you must be a Captain and I bet your crew loves you with that warm direct advice. Seriously, thanks for providing the search results, I was able to view them. I wonder if I had not done the 10 posts if I could have?

This post was one of the 10 posts I needed to be able to do a search and use the search feature, as stated below.

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dutch747 10-22-2006 09:43 AM

Sometimes being direct...
 
I always seem to get in trouble with my approach. You are a registered user so you have access to the search engine correct? Regardless, if you need more information, don't hesitate to ask.

Space Monkey 10-22-2006 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by F9forME (Post 71330)
Does anyone have any information they can share about FocusAir?

DON'T DO IT..... look at the pay scales people say 9E is lowering the bar but for god sakes FocusAir is just Fuking pathetic.....:mad:

L-1011-500 10-22-2006 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Space Monkey (Post 71827)
DON'T DO IT..... look at the pay scales people say 9E is lowering the bar but for god sakes FocusAir is just Fuking pathetic.....:mad:

How did you come up with this statement? I thought Focus was paid more than any of the other 747 bottom feeders?

Space Monkey 10-22-2006 06:53 PM

Well ok let me validate my statement then... On this website under airlines/cargo/focusair.... Then let's look at top 747 CA pay (year five) $127/ hr using the calculator below it I come up with $127/hr x 60 hr gaurantee / mo X 12 mo / yr = $91,440/yr base now basic assumption lets say you are away for 21 days per month... 21 x $48 per deim /day x 12 mo /year =$12096/yr perdeim so total = $103536 max 747 CA pay per year.... Same process using 1 year CA pay = $70,560/yr + per deim = $82,656. Lets go further.... Year one FO = $42480 /year + per deim = $54576; Year five FO= $61,200/year + perdeim = $73,296

There is No way a top 74 CA at any company should only make $103K a year with a 5 year max out nor should any 747 FO only make $54K a year....and max at five years making $73K a year... Hell many senior RJ CA's make what a top 747 CA makes at focus... FOOD FOR THOUGHT

L-1011-500 10-23-2006 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by Space Monkey (Post 71942)
Well ok let me validate my statement then... On this website under airlines/cargo/focusair.... Then let's look at top 747 CA pay (year five) $127/ hr using the calculator below it I come up with $127/hr x 60 hr gaurantee / mo X 12 mo / yr = $91,440/yr base now basic assumption lets say you are away for 21 days per month... 21 x $48 per deim /day x 12 mo /year =$12096/yr perdeim so total = $103536 max 747 CA pay per year.... Same process using 1 year CA pay = $70,560/yr + per deim = $82,656. Lets go further.... Year one FO = $42480 /year + per deim = $54576; Year five FO= $61,200/year + perdeim = $73,296

There is No way a top 74 CA at any company should only make $103K a year with a 5 year max out nor should any 747 FO only make $54K a year....and max at five years making $73K a year... Hell many senior RJ CA's make what a top 747 CA makes at focus... FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Well I agree with you some, but compair it to all the other 747 operators and it is way more than they make. Let's face it the pay scales we had before 9-11 are gone. I don't like it but that's how it is these days. I still make more than a 5th year regional guy and I am flying a 747. I am gone 19 days a month. I stay in really nice hotels. Fly business class to and from work. I have a 401K and pretty descent medical compaired to others and upgrade is not all that far off. Our pay scales only go out to 5 years because the company is only a year old. I'll bet you by the time the 5th year comes around there won't be any RJ captains making more than I will unless they fly their butt off. Sure you'll get guys who'll ***** about it here as you will anyplace. But there are places so much worse to be than here. So if you don't like it and want to make a stand about the pay then good for you. Or maybe you have another agenda to make you bad mouth us?

Normy! 10-23-2006 04:17 AM

I tend to agree with L1011. I'm fourth year at Kalitta, make $106 per hour + $49.20/day international perdiem or $36/day domestic, and I have a MUCH better life than that Pinnacle guy who lives across the street from me.

-NO craspads; we get hotels everywhere, even in base.

-NO commuting, generally. We are based in Ypsilanti, but they usually want us to fly to the airplane, since it is cheaper. I've had to jumpseat three times in four years.

-I don't know what's going on at Focus, but we are all getting 13-14 days off per month, all in a block. My poor neighbor is constantly commuting back and forth to Detroit, and he's never home for more than 3 days in a row it seems.

-I fly a 747- how cool is that!

-I have 3-4 day overnights in Brussels and Hong Kong; he's lucky to get 8 hours and one minute in garden spots like Toledo...

REALLY, places like Kalitta, Focus, Southern, etc. are all just regionals with big equipment, but these are still better places to work.

N

L-1011-500 10-23-2006 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by Normy! (Post 71990)
REALLY, places like Kalitta, Focus, Southern, etc. are all just regionals with big equipment, but these are still better places to work.

N

Amen Brother!


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